Microstick Curve Settings Request

[Fakum]

I am new to Virpil controls. Long story short, I have been struggling for a few days to try and get the Ministick on the Throttle to slew the Shkval in the KA-50. I know this subject would be relevant to other sensors, like the T-Pod etc. My specific issue is the fine tuning I am looking for. I can get it to slew all over the place if I want, but when it comes down to the very subtle movements to get the targeting box right on the target at long distance, I should be able to just put some slight pressure on the ministick for those fine tune needs. I am coming out of a Thrustmaster cougar, and I had no issue with that microstick. I have tried MANY flavors of adjustments with trying the Slider, user curves etc. I just cant quite get it right. Im getting just a tad too much travel on the physical microstick before it starts to move a tad to fast? I have attached my current config as an example. Its pretty close but still a tad to jumpy coming off of center. Please share your curve settings if applicable. Thanks,

[dukovac]

43 minutes ago, Fakum said:

Im getting just a tad too much travel on the physical microstick before it starts to move

You are getting to much travel before it starts to move regardless of axis settings in DCS? If that's correct, then mini-stick probably has dead-zone which you can reduce in the Virpil configuration tool.

[Fakum]

Ah yes! I didnt consider that, but excellent point,,, is this the place to change it, and what values should these be to minimize its?

 

 

 

Edited January 28, 2021 by Fakum

[dukovac]

I am not sure. Maybe here you can find a tutorial.

[dukovac]

• Min - The deadzone value % of the lower end of the axis input.
• Center - The deadzone value % of the center of the axis input.
• Max - The deadzone value % of the upper end of the axis input.
• Dynamic - A dynamic deadzone % that operates throughout the entire range of the axis input as a 1/10th % (value “5” = 0.5%, or “15” = 1.5%) of the last polled value. Similar effect to the smoothing value for removing jitter but without obscuring or slowing the polled input response. 

https://support.virpil.com/en/support/solutions/articles/47001121642-vpc-software-technical-overview

 

29 minutes ago, Fakum said:

what values should these be

Try with Middle 0. If axis begin to drift on its own increase to 1 etc.

[Fakum]

That makes sense sir,,, and thank you!

 

[Fakum]

Much to my surprise, I did NOT see any noticeable difference? Im still struggling a bit with overshooting target designator, especially on distant targets.

[dukovac]

On 1/29/2021 at 6:14 PM, Fakum said:

Much to my surprise, I did NOT see any noticeable difference?

I'm sorry to hear that.

In the third column (Calibration) you have "Type: with center". I would make it without center. Do that and then move mini stick to left, hold it there and press start, move it to right, hold it there and press stop. Skip the center. Do that for both axis of mini stick and set all dead zones to 0, including dynamic dead zone. If that doesn't work, you better try your luck on the virpil forum because I'm out of ideas. After you make changes don't forget to click first on blue "save" button and then on green "save VPC device".

[Fakum]

Thanks, I will giv that a whirl later today and report back,,, thanks for the tip sir!

[Fakum]

Thanks! That really helped alot, it got rid of the bump/jump that occurred while coming out of center position. I can now fiddle with the curve a bit more for the end stroke, but this change alone made a significant improvement! Thanks again.

[dukovac]

[mporlier]

I can't assign the ministick the the KA axis. It wont let me doubleclick on the field and assign.

[Sabre_Ewan]

10 minutes ago, mporlier said:

I can't assign the ministick the the KA axis. It wont let me doubleclick on the field and assign.

 

You're looking at mouse slew there. I haven't actually flown the KA50 since switching to a throttle with an axis for it, but I think what you want is 'Absolute SHKVAL Horizontal/Vertical Slew'

[mporlier]

13 minutes ago, Sabre_Ewan said:

 

You're looking at mouse slew there. I haven't actually flown the KA50 since switching to a throttle with an axis for it, but I think what you want is 'Absolute SHKVAL Horizontal/Vertical Slew'

Just tried it and that's it, thank you!!

[Fakum]

I have been fiddling with this for a bit, I did make an improvement, the far away targets that I am zoomed in on and trying to lock are still a tad too sensitive still and I cant seem to improve it any more. The result of getting this smoothed out for distant pinpointing has resulted in the zoomed out spanning Left/Right Up/Down to be jerky/jittery.