Lock On Crashing!

airmad · July 13, 2008

all i can say is that you people are lucky if lock on plays fine,,because lock on crashes on my system,sometimes once every 2 hours,sometimes 4 times..just says 'lock on has stopped working' or the picture just freezes.

there is nothing wrong with my PC (a new quad core athlon AMD phenom64,3 gig ram,2.2 htz,GFORCE 8400 VCard).

i dont reckon its the video card,256mb.

i am VISTA windows,and its not vista surely.JUST MY F'F'#'#P;K LUCK,THATS WHAT IT IS,and sod all can help me with it,it seems:doh::huh::mad:

LawnDart · July 14, 2008

...there is nothing wrong with my PC...

...i am VISTA windows,and its not vista surely.JUST MY F'F'#'#P;K LUCK,THATS WHAT IT IS,and sod all can help me with it,it seems:doh::huh::mad:

Jumping to conclusions... there's nothing wrong with your PC, eh? News flash: Most people do not have problems running LockOn, so something in your rig is causing problems whether it's a setting somewhere, a currupt install, hardware or software (LockOn or other software run in the background). Explain IN DETAIL what happens, when and provide as much information as you can. Are you running Vista in admin mode? Are you using AA/AF on your graphics card? What other processes are running in the background? When does the crash occur (in flight, in menu, while loading etc. etc.)...?

No one will feel sorry for you unless you make an honest attempt to clearly convey your problem and provide enough info for others to provide a possible solution. Just some food for thought! ;)

Saying "it's surely not Vista" or "nothing is wrong with my computer" is only frustration talking and the odds of someone else pinpointing your problem is about as big as winning the lottery!

airmad · July 14, 2008

Jumping to conclusions... there's nothing wrong with your PC, eh? News flash: Most people do not have problems running LockOn, so something in your rig is causing problems whether it's a setting somewhere, a currupt install, hardware or software (LockOn or other software run in the background). Explain IN DETAIL what happens, when and provide as much information as you can. Are you running Vista in admin mode? Are you using AA/AF on your graphics card? What other processes are running in the background? When does the crash occur (in flight, in menu, while loading etc. etc.)...?

No one will feel sorry for you unless you make an honest attempt to clearly convey your problem and provide enough info for others to provide a possible solution. Just some food for thought! ;)

Saying "it's surely not Vista" or "nothing is wrong with my computer" is only frustration talking and the odds of someone else pinpointing your problem is about as big as winning the lottery!

Thanks for your reply.

I am quite new to computers,hence don't just come out with all the jargon,not familiar. I have tried running it via admin,and just clicking the icon-either way it crashes,and it can crash at any time-in flight,taxiing whenever you see,so i dont think its to do with the pc not handling the game.The video card is inbuilt NVIDEA GFORCE 8400.Someone did suggest i aquire a 512mb,but then i read that this is probably not the case.My hard drive has only a small percentage used.

I have reinstalled it twice,so i think its installed correctly.No other processes are running in the background.perhaps settings,im not sure.

sorry,i am frustrated as i love the game.appreciate any help.

BTW,a window just pops up saying ''lock on has stopped working,windows is ?checking''.

Glowing_Amraam · July 14, 2008

That Nvidia 8400, isnt that a card buil for laptops?

Maybe it's not suited for Lock On at all..?

I dont know, really... Just remember a friend of mine couldn't even play Conan, without the game freezing up.

SuperKungFu · July 14, 2008

tell us your installation procedure.

airmad · July 14, 2008

That Nvidia 8400, isnt that a card buil for laptops?
Maybe it's not suited for Lock On at all..?

I dont know, really... Just remember a friend of mine couldn't even play Conan, without the game freezing up.

GTA san andreas,flight simulator 2004,falcon 4 allied force play fine. the card is 256mb.i dont think its the card.:)

airmad · July 14, 2008

tell us your installation procedure.

ah,better if you say what should happen in the procedure?:) sorry,i cant remember..It installed just as my other big games do,yet this has the problem..?

What is AA/AF? is it anti alaising? re the video card? Maybe its to do with the settings on my VC.I will try some alterations

July 14, 2008

GFORCE 8400 VCard

Any Nvidia 8X card cause's Lockon.exe CTD's. I have Nvidia 8800 GTX's running in SLI and in single GPU mode and I still get multiple CTD's. It don't matter what order you install LOFC in, you'll get the CTD's. Even diasbling desktop composition and running LOFC as administrator and in XP SP2 mode doesn't help.

LOFC.exe is incompatible with any 8X series Nvidia cards. The dev's are the only one's who can fix the incompatability issue's regarding Nvidia 8X cards.

Edited July 14, 2008 by Syncho
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LawnDart · July 14, 2008

CTD's? I consider myself pretty computer savvy, but I'm stomped... what is this (abbreviation)? :huh: (Google'd that shit and the results: Cheaper Than Dirt, Cumulative Trauma Disorder, or Center for Talent Development... I think not!).

Also, I run a nVidia 8800 card and it works perfectly with LockOn (aside from the shader issue (full shadows) previously reported many many times).

@airmad, check your virtual memory settings on your computer too! If you're using a built in GPU with a laptop, you could be sharing video memory and system memory and you'd likely need to have a large page file (allowed) or apps may run low on memory (and crash). Try setting at least 2048 MB for your page file with no upper limit, just to be sure that's not it.

SuperKungFu · July 14, 2008

ah,better if you say what should happen in the procedure?:) sorry,i cant remember..It installed just as my other big games do,yet this has the problem..?

What is AA/AF? is it anti alaising? re the video card? Maybe its to do with the settings on my VC.I will try some alterations

What I meant was, did you install it in this order?

1.00 - Original Lock on CD

(do NOT install 1.02 patch)

1.1 - Flaming Cliffs Addon

1.12b - patch

Brit_Radar_Dude · July 15, 2008

The dev's are the only one's who can fix the incompatability issue's regarding Nvidia 8X cards.

Surely you mean Nvidia are the only ones who can fix the issues regarding Nvidia 8X cards? After all, it is just as likely to be their driver code as it is Lockon's code.

LawnDart. CTD is Crash To Desktop.....

G3 · July 15, 2008

Syncho:

8800 series cards in sli here and no ctd's, so not sure about that one

wheres that error log from, is it a vista thing, if so maybe so is the error.

Airmad:

for a desktop pc,

imo the crashing is more likely (in no specific order):

a messed up driver issue or

a messed up install/game files or

a system stability issue eg: psu, ram, heat etc.

an 256meg 8400 vid card is i'd say bare minimum, spoil yourself with a more serious card like an 8800gt 512 or better if budget will allow.

a good place to start is simple things like:

taking the side off and have a fan blow cool air into the case is a good way to check for temp problems, which often only happen after extended gaming sessions.

give that a go and see if you still have this crashing.

if the problem remains we can look deeper,

sorry i have never seen this message you describe.

nothing worse than having problems with your favorite titles,

lets hope we can help sort it out for you.

Edited July 15, 2008 by G3

LawnDart · July 15, 2008

LawnDart. CTD is Crash To Desktop.....

DOH!!! :doh:

ggg87, I'm in the same boat... 8800, never had a CTD. Good points you brought up!

G3 · July 15, 2008

Originally Posted by Brit_Radar_Dude

LawnDart. CTD is Crash To Desktop.....

DOH!!! :doh:,

hey don't worry, if your not getting them how would you know about it?

also thanks LawnDart, always like reading what you have to say.

as in your previous post for example, firm but fair.

now thats 2 of us without 8800 issues :)

Edited July 15, 2008 by G3

Glowing_Amraam · July 15, 2008

At the moment im using the Geforce 8600 GT ... no problems, except some weird looking clouds (as seen in Tracer at some points), but i believe that is fixed now that i turned up the "texture quality" or something, on the card itself.

Kuky · July 15, 2008

airmad, are you able to check maybe in BIOS (before booting to windows hit DELETE or F2 key - depening on motherboard) in hardware monitor what voltage values you get for 3.3V +5V and +12V? Are there showing undervolting maybe (bellow these specs)? If it does (especially the +12V rail(s)) you might have PSU that doesn't provide stable voltage to your hardware.

July 15, 2008

CTD's?

CTD's = Crash to desktop.

July 15, 2008

Surely you mean Nvidia are the only ones who can fix the issues regarding Nvidia 8X cards? After all, it is just as likely to be their driver code as it is Lockon's code.

LawnDart. CTD is Crash To Desktop.....

No it has to be done by the dev's. Nvidia 8 series card is incompatible with LOFC or vice versa I beleive it has something to do with an algorithm in the Nvidia forceware. I've tried running in single GPU mode but the CTD's continue to happen if I force split frame rendering mode and alternate frame rendering mode 1 or 2 the CTD's happen more frequently.

I have a very expensive set up and I run Crysis on full settings with ease but LOFC is the only game I get CTD's, OF runs fine.

July 15, 2008

airmad, are you able to check maybe in BIOS (before booting to windows hit DELETE or F2 key - depening on motherboard) in hardware monitor what voltage values you get for 3.3V +5V and +12V? Are there showing undervolting maybe (bellow these specs)? If it does (especially the +12V rail(s)) you might have PSU that doesn't provide stable voltage to your hardware.

Yes first thought would be a PSU fault/undersupply but I have a SLI certified PSU & still get CTD's. The CTD's are a compatability issue between LOFC and ALL Nvidia forceware driver's or vice versa.

Edited July 15, 2008 by Syncho

LawnDart · July 15, 2008

...The CTD's are a compatability issue between LOFC and ALL Nvidia forceware driver's or vice versa.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but how come myself and apparently many others here are able to run LOFC with 8x nVidia cards, forceware drivers and not experience any crashes?

Sounds like the culprit isn't compatibility issues between LOFC and forceware drivers to me, but something more unqiue to your rig. :noexpression:

July 15, 2008

Correct me if I'm wrong, but how come myself and apparently many others here are able to run LOFC with 8x nVidia cards, forceware drivers and not experience any crashes?

Sounds like the culprit isn't compatibility issues between LOFC and forceware drivers to me, but something more unqiue to your rig. :noexpression:

http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=26461

http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=25901

http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=29407

http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=29718

http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=28191

http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=27961

http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=27978

http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=27073

http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=26739

Must be me and my rig :huh:

Hmmm it appears that LO is incompatible with Vista. I run LO on my other rig which has Vista but an ATI card and I dont get the CTD's. It must be a mix of LO, Vista and 8 series cards.

Edited July 15, 2008 by Syncho

LawnDart · July 16, 2008

Aha... VISTA! I digress... :music_whistling:

mikoyan · July 16, 2008

I play lock-on on my vista boot camp mac and it crashes after closing the game (it is not constant, sometimes it works fine)

SuperKungFu · July 16, 2008

I have lock on running on vista, I have an 8600 GT card, it runs just fine.

airmad · July 16, 2008

Hi guys.Thanks so much for all the advice,all of you.

It's not overheating,as it may crash only a few minutes into playing.

As for install,i just followed the instructions,staightforward.

As for VCard it seems a few have confirmed it can't be as theirs play fine with the type.

I did notice that the joystick (logic attack 3) seemed to aggravate the problem,crashing sooner and more often than when i tried it just keys.

I havent played it for a couple weeks,but i'll try altering the options on my DTop,and the VC. I have the VC set maximum to performance (frame rate) away from quality-as the FR's were a little slow with the cloudy overcast settings.

Cheers

Edited July 16, 2008 by airmad

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