P-47 Cockpit Light Broken

[whurst1]

UV lights and Compass light OK, but Cockpit light always throws breaker, and then even UV lights seem  inconsistent.

Cannot complete night mission without this problem.

Edited February 14, 2021 by whurst1

[-0303-]

This, or something different?

 

Edited February 16, 2021 by -0303-

[Hunter Joker]

On 2/14/2021 at 6:04 PM, whurst1 said:

UV lights and Compass light OK, but Cockpit light always throws breaker, and then even UV lights seem  inconsistent.

Cannot complete night mission without this problem.

 

Apart the bug, I can (at least it seems to me) to activate only spotlight and cockpit light...not UV. How to activate UV lights?

Thx.

 

[ac5]

Same issue here, especially at dusk....

[_Hoss]

Ditto, main reason I won't fly the Jug in low light missions. 

Hoss

[scoobie]

+1
Until it gets fixed... not really a solution, but just a poorman's workaround: the breaker doesn't pop when you turn the cockpit light rheostat only "some", somewhere between 1/2 and 3/4 of full travel, can't remember exactly off the top of my head. The light's a bit dimmer then, but maybe bright enough for anybody?
Disclaimer: Haven't tested it in recent months, but it used to work like that around the turn of 2021.

 

[ac5]

Well, this is all not satisfactory... 

I sincerely hope ED is aware of this.

[peachmonkey]

- I twist the rheostat to the max, then back it up couple of degrees and the light stays on without problems (the breaker doesn't pop)

- cockpit light switch works ok, the spot lights are engaged

- the blue light (UV) also works, although it starts off pretty dim, so you need to twist both left and right light caps to the max in order to get some decent illumination.

[Tuturuu]

I didn't find anything in this old manual about this but the Electric system of the plane being quiet complete, i wouldn't be surprised as it is close to the reality and was reported by veteran fighters/Engineers ?

Right now you either can choose to use the cockpit light or the UV light at 80% or both with the UV lights being fairly low (25%).  It's subjective of the monitor/Vr used of course but i never have issue using a gamma of 1.8
 

Edited January 3, 2022 by Tuturuu

[AJaromir]

To turn on UV lights: set rheostat to "start" position for around 10 seconds, then move it back to "out" position. Do not leave it in start position or the UV lamps will blow out. It takes up to minute until the fluorescent paint will start shine on gauges.

Edit 2: From my experience the UV lights are modeled properly only in Mig-15. In P-51D the UV lights are modelled wrong - there it works like common bulb on rheostat and not like UV lamp which must be held in "start" position for few seconds and then turned back to "out" position. In other modules I don't know because I don't own them.

Edited November 4, 2022 by AJaromir

[AJaromir]

Here I made small video tutorial. As I wrote, it will take time to fully shine. Aslo it will take time to fully exhaust. This is how fluorescent paint works. The UV light does not make gauges shining. It provides energy to fluorescent paint which then emits light. The start position is to warm up UV light electrodes. Same principle like fluorescent lamp starter. But here the start is made manually.

Note: It still does not work as it should. It is not possible to blow out the UV lamps when the rheostat is in "start" position.

 

Edited November 4, 2022 by AJaromir

[virgo47]

I was also wondering how UV works. There seems to be nothing about it in the manual (or not easy to search). I never understood why the top position "turns it off!", but later I figured out the meaning of START - and also noticed, that the rheostat moves back a notch. I'm curious whether the real thing is spring-loaded or temporarily latched somehow.

This makes it difficult to use with an axis because the max position on the axis is not the max position before starter (unless I experiment with some saturation which I might). Using inc/dec button action is perhaps better. But that one makes it also difficult to stop before the starter positon. Perhaps the start should be different binding and leave only the rest of the travel for inc/dec or axis mapping. Tough stuff.

Finally, the CB, it seems to do the bad stuff only in START position, but that would make sense. When it pops out of it to the normal max position I have much harder time to pop the CB.

[AJaromir]

Yes, in my opinion this is not simulated the best way in P-47. It is made well in Mig-15