additional entry "link" in server-information window, or hide passworded servers by default

[D4n]

1. In this left bottom box field, please add a mandatory field (server-owner must enter some characters in there) "website/forum-thread link" field (or not mandatory), so that users can find more information on either the server or on a currently ongoing event on that server.

 

But seeing a server with so many players and not being able to find out more about the event (searching for word "FIRMAMENT" on ED forum = 0 useful results, in this example...) is just plain sad..

 

Or

2. Hide passworded servers by default

 

 

Edited February 27, 2021 by D4n

[Dagger71]

Again forcing privately funded server owners to do anything (like forcing to have an actual website or forum post) is not going to work.   

 

I understand that seeing a server full of people and not knowing anything about it can be frustrating, but this might be by design.  A private squad might not want this to be public and in fact Firmament  Fighters Event is  a password protected server!    This could be an event by invite only with members agreeing not to disclose anything about it.   It doesn't really matter what they are doing, ED can't force them to disclose anything about their privately funded server.

 If you ask (NOT demand!) nicely on the forums, it's possible you  MIGHT  get answers from the server/squad in question.     

But since you came  on here demanding  ED to force them to disclose information about the server,  is NOT going to win you any approval from the server admins.  In fact they will see you as hostile and probably never allow you to join.

Edited February 26, 2021 by Dagger71

[D4n]

16 minutes ago, Dagger71 said:

This could be an event by invite only with members agreeing not to disclose anything about it.

But it way more likely is a sign-up-only event, so I'd obviously consider to sign-up for the next event.

[Dagger71]

5 minutes ago, D4n said:

But it way more likely is a sign-up-only event, so I'd obviously consider to sign-up for the next event.

Except it was never made public, so I am assuming it's a private event that did not publish the details to anyone except their own members. ED has no business (nor would they ever) in forcing them to disclose anything. 

[D4n]

Then it'd be best to directly clarify it in server-name: "PRIVATE FIRMAMENT FIGHTERS EVENT"

But then also a link to a place where pilots can sign up to join "FIRMAMENT".

[Dagger71]

it's obviously a private server since it's password protected.  They don't need to provide a link, if  they do not want to disclose it.    Again ED hs no intentions of forcing private servers to do anything like change their name (unless it violates the terms of service).

 

Besides there is in fact a place to post a  link to the server info IF the admins wish to publish it. The title of this thread should be  "ED please force servers to disclose all information about the server in the MP browser lobby".   

 

You are fighting a losing battle on this one and in fact you are exposing yourself to getting getting blacklisted by members of that server (or others)  if you continue.  Just my opinion.  I'd leave it at if I were you.

 

Edited February 26, 2021 by Dagger71

[D4n]

7 minutes ago, Dagger71 said:

The title of this thread should be  "ED please force servers to disclose all information about the server in the MP browser lobby".   

No, actually "ED please force servers to disclose contact information about the server in the MP browser lobby".   

[Dagger71]

38 minutes ago, D4n said:

No, actually "ED please force servers to disclose contact information about the server in the MP browser lobby".   

And that won't happen.  Daniel there could be 1000 reasons why  they hide any info.   

A server might be setup for active service personnel across various overseas  theaters and don't want to disclose that.

 

Could be a test server for a specific MP beta testing team.

 

Could be a private elite server that is only open to members of Skulls and Bones and requires a $100 000 entry fee. 

Could be a private server for  manga lovers.

It doesn't matter who  the server  members are, ED will never force them to disclose this information.  A private server  cannot be forced to accept anyone nor are they obligated to disclose anything about the server nor of  the members.  We've been through this before.

Edited February 26, 2021 by Dagger71

[Harker]

If groups want to attract more people, they have various ways of reaching out and advertising themselves. ED even added a Squadrons section to the forums.

If a group is not advertising themselves, not reaching out, not present on the forums etc, then they're not interested in getting new members.

Also, what kind of craziness is that? That a private server would have to disclose contact info? Maybe I'm running the server from my house, am I supposed to post my real email and phone number? Maybe the group in question has no Discord, no website and is just a bunch of friends playing together.

This is like seeing a nice party in a house and trying to join, even though you weren't invited. The word "private" in the term "private server" means that the host has to do nothing and nothing is expected of them, unless they're in breach of the EULA.

[Dagger71]

1 hour ago, Harker said:

If a group is not advertising themselves, not reaching out, not present on the forums etc, then they're not interested in getting new members.

^^^^^^THIS!

Many DCS players do not speak english and therefore only join private servers in their respective languages.  Whether the server hosts 10 or 100 people is irrelevant as that is how the server members want it to be.  The server DanielNL is complaining about is a russian squadron private server.  They have no obligation to advertise their server in english forums, as (I am assuming) they are only using russian as the only language used on the server.  They also had the highest connected players in all of DCS, so obviously they don't need to advertise on english forums!!!

Edited February 27, 2021 by Dagger71

[D4n]

7 hours ago, Harker said:

Maybe I'm running the server from my house, am I supposed to post my real email and phone number? Maybe the group in question has no Discord, no website

An ED forum thread then... Or, ok ok, no matter if they want new members or not (which would be crazy, if they would not want new members who wouldn't want new members, who wouldn't want to grow?), then let's add to the request "or hide passworded servers by default". At least players don't feel messed with, then, when they see a quite full server but don't see any way of joining it in the near future.

It's already annoying enough that some public 24/7 server(s) use a password but do publish the password on some website/Discord/forum-thread (I'm not gonna name the server here)

Changing thread-name now.

 

6 hours ago, Dagger71 said:

The server DanielNL is complaining about is a russian squadron private server.  They have no obligation to advertise their server in english forums

1. Im D4n, not "DanielNL", please refrain from calling me any different than my forum name, thank you.

 

2. And that a server only uses a non-english language, imo, is unsportsmanlike, and allowing english ingame text-chat should be part of basic server-rules imo.

And again, let's add to the request "or hide passworded servers by default. [At least players don't feel messed with, then, when they see a quite full server but don't see any way of joining it in the near future.]

[BIGNEWY]

Sorry, but private servers can run their servers as they wish to, if they want to add more information they can, it is not mandatory. 

 

thank you 

[D4n]

13 minutes ago, BIGNEWY said:

private servers can run their servers as they wish to, if they want to add more information they can, it is not mandatory.

Ok and what's your personal opinion about the other option/idea (in thread title), to hide passworded servers by default?

[BIGNEWY]

6 minutes ago, D4n said:

Ok and what's your personal opinion about the other option/idea (in thread title), to hide passworded servers by default?

 

Honestly I feel it is better to show all servers, the option is there to filter if you wish to. 

 

thanks

[Dagger71]

7 hours ago, D4n said:

And that a server only uses a non-english language, imo, is unsportsmanlike, and allowing english ingame text-chat should be part of basic server-rules imo.

Now you want to enforce language restrictions on privately owned servers? Are you serious???    You went over the edge D4N!! No that would NEVER happen.

[D4n]

  

1 hour ago, Dagger71 said:

Now you want to enforce language restrictions on privately owned servers?

how is "allowing english in text-chat" a "restriction"??

Edited February 27, 2021 by D4n

[Dagger71]

34 minutes ago, D4n said:

  

how is "allowing english in text-chat" a "restriction"??

 

 Servers can allow ANY language they want and they don't need need ED's  or your approval. Not sure what you are getting at here.  All server CAN allow any language.  But some non english servers will only allow their own language and this is completely up to the admins.     

It is NOT up to you to join a server and demand  members that YOU want to speak in english and therefore everyone must adhere to YOUR request.  This is getting into the ridiculous now.

Edited February 27, 2021 by Dagger71

[D4n]

7 hours ago, Dagger71 said:

 want to speak in english

Did not write "speak".... I wrote "write"... in text-chat.