Thud documents

[upyr1]

A couple years ago I wrote the Smithsonian to see what USAF documents about the thud existed. I saw I could order copies of what existed, they are a bit pricy for me I never tried to follow on about electronic documents. Here are some documents with a list of the files do you think it would be enough to do a community mod?

Thud documents

[KlarSnow]

So the most important thing in that list that I am fairly certain does not exist on the internet or in any form other than these archives is the F-105B-34-1

That manual is the unclassified manual on how the weapons systems, radar, any computed bombing modes, gunsights, etc... all work.

That would be the first priority. Cause otherwise you have no real way of modeling those systems.

 

After that the F-105D-1-1 (supplemental flight manual) is next, that appears to be for the thunderstick which is the F-105's Fire control system, I don't think there are ANY manuals for that out there. If its not that it is probably performance manuals, which would also be very helpful in developing a flight model.

 

Finally the F-105B-1's (flight manuals) these will tell you how the jets systems work, but stop short at the weapons systems. There are a few of these for various era's of F-105 floating around on the internet that can probably be acquired cheaper/easier than this, off a quick google I can find F-105B,D, and F flight manuals. I have no way of knowing however if they are as complete as these manuals are, or if they match all the other dates and systems. But generally that stuff isnt going to change too terribly much.

 

You'll have to ask a mod team or a dev team if that looks like it would be enough, but the -34-1, and the -1-1 are gonna be the finds out of that list if you can get ahold of them.

 

The maintenance manuals it is very difficult to tell without opening them up if they would be useful or not. Some of them can have tons of information that is super relevant to a flight sim, or it might just tell you which panels and wires to take off to service system X. Not really a great way of knowing beforehand.

Edited March 11, 2021 by KlarSnow

[RaisedByWolves]

Should start a gofundme. Would probably be paid for in an hour.

[upyr1]

48 minutes ago, RaisedByWolves said:

Should start a gofundme. Would probably be paid for in an hour.

Will do, I am also going to ask around at https://groups.google.com/g/f105 and other Thud groups to see what they can provide help wise

[Kpdretired]

I've been looking for a -34 for 25 years Iv'e never seen one.

[Blaze1]

I think I may have a copy of the -34 somewhere.  If memory serves me it's TO 1F-105B-34-1-1.  The classified/formerly classified manuals would be TO 1F-105G-1, I believe this was previously titled TO 1F-105G-1A.  These manuals dealt with systems used to employ the AGM-45 Shrike and AGM-78 Standard ARM (STARM).  There's also TO 1F-105B-34-1-3, which covered classified weapons such as the Sidewinder.  I'd be very surprised if all of those manuals haven't been declassified or wouldn't be with an FOIA or MDR.

Edited April 9, 2021 by Blaze1

[Kev2go]

On 3/10/2021 at 8:28 PM, KlarSnow said:

So the most important thing in that list that I am fairly certain does not exist on the internet or in any form other than these archives is the F-105B-34-1

That manual is the unclassified manual on how the weapons systems, radar, any computed bombing modes, gunsights, etc... all work.

That would be the first priority. Cause otherwise you have no real way of modeling those systems.

 

 

On 4/9/2021 at 8:51 AM, Blaze1 said:

I think I may have a copy of the -34 somewhere.  If memory serves me it's TO 1F-105B-34-1-1.  The classified/formerly classified manuals would be TO 1F-105G-1, I believe this was previously titled TO 1F-105G-1A.  These manuals dealt with systems used to employ the AGM-45 Shrike and AGM-78 Standard ARM (STARM).  There's also TO 1F-105B-34-1-3, which covered classified weapons such as the Sidewinder.  I'd be very surprised if all of those manuals haven't been declassified or wouldn't be with an FOIA or MDR.

 

somone once sold a paper copy on ebay.

 

So somewhere out there.... somewhere is a dash 34

 

https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/1960s-original-training-aircraft-1886135975

 

 

 

 

[slickdevel]

I don't have any TO's but I have managed to keep this for 58 years. About 25 pages of info.

Pick up the folder ASG-19 FCS from my dropbox. I'll leave it open for a month or so.

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/26o5u2xxkhymwtr/AAB0g5gx3E36HIqY01gR1ITYa?dl=0

Edited August 9, 2022 by slickdevel