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Ticking "hidden on mfd" for the group does not seem to make any difference, so what exactly does this setting do?  It doesn't appear to be documented in the manual.

 

Whilst I'm on the subject, looking at the manual, the following entries would benefit from being made a little clearer:

 

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HIDDEN ON MAP. check box. After creating a mission, you may wish to hide certain units so
that people playing your mission cannot see them(1). For example, you may want to hide mobile
enemy units from being seen by the player on the briefing and F10 maps(2). Press this check box
to hide the selected aircraft group from the ME World Map and F10 view(3). You can view all
hidden groups using the Units List window (discussed later in this manual) (4).

 

What does sentence (1) actually mean?  Does it mean what is said in sentence (2) and is then needlessly repeated again in sentence (3)?  If so, maybe just one sentence saying this instead of three would be clearer.  What is the "briefing map"?  I'm not aware of there being a map in the briefing screen.  Does it refer to the mission planner?  If so, we already have another option for that.

 

My understanding is simply that it hides the object in the mission editor.  But, if so, why not just state this?  And isn't this is a convenience for the mission designer, not the player.

 

I rarely use the F10 map, but if it does hide the object in this map, wouldn't it be more logical to have this as a different option to the one hiding it in the mission editor?

 

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HIDDEN ON PLANNER. This option hides aircraft from the mission map in the mission
planner. This option can be useful if you need to hide an object from the player.

 

These three options, and their description (or lack of) in the manual just create confusion, and a clearer explanation would be most welcome.  Thank you.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited by Hippo

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Your post subject is different from both of your quotes. Hiding in SA would be declutter I believe. Hidden on map means while in mission. So if you do invoke F10 these units will not show. Hidden on planner is when in ME you cannot see units in the planning. Does this help?

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Posted (edited)
22 minutes ago, silverdevil said:

Your post subject is different from both of your quotes. Hiding in SA would be declutter I believe. Hidden on map means while in mission. So if you do invoke F10 these units will not show. Hidden on planner is when in ME you cannot see units in the planning. Does this help?

Sorry, I can see why my post could appear a bit unclear, but I thought it would be obvious from the context.  My main question relates to setting up a mission where the SAMs / AAA are not known about beforehand so should not show up on the SA page at all; it was a mission editor question, not a cockpit avionics question.  I thought that ticking the ME option "HIDDEN ON MFD" for the particular SAM / AAA group would accomplish this, but as stated, it doesn't appear to.

 

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I then went off on a bit of a tangent with the other two options, as I don't think the descriptions in the manual are particularly clear, and I think there is some overlap in the options which I feel is a bit illogical, as I attempted to describe.

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This doesn't seem to be functioning as intended right now, or is not yet fully implemented. As far as I know Hidden on MFD does nothing, but it does seem like it is intended to hide the unit from the Hornet's SA Page and Viper's HSD Page. 

 

Currently, selecting Hidden On Map hides the unit from the F10 map in game and on the in-aircraft MFDs. Selecting Hidden On Planner hides the unit in the Mission Planner if the player selects that before starting the mission. 

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4 hours ago, Bunny Clark said:

This doesn't seem to be functioning as intended right now, or is not yet fully implemented. As far as I know Hidden on MFD does nothing, but it does seem like it is intended to hide the unit from the Hornet's SA Page and Viper's HSD Page. 

 

Currently, selecting Hidden On Map hides the unit from the F10 map in game and on the in-aircraft MFDs. Selecting Hidden On Planner hides the unit in the Mission Planner if the player selects that before starting the mission. 

Many thanks for that, everything is clear now.

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