Pride37 Posted April 21, 2021 Posted April 21, 2021 Hi, 2.7 with Reverb G2 here. When I updated to 2.7, I noticed a slight performance impact in VR (nothing comparable to the 30% drop some are experiencing, though...) and BigNewy's advice to rename the saved games folder and repair seemed to make the job for me. Certain situations are still a bit more stressful for my rig than with 2.5.6, like populated areas or overcast with heavy rain, but still ok'ish. So I started to enjoy cloud surfing. And then... DCS crashed to desktop (as it sometimes happens), but when I fired it up again, I immediatelly noticed the shimmering image as if MSAA was off in settings (despite it was on 2x, as usual). And then, whatever the setting I put (Off, 2x or 4x), nothing changes and the game doesn't restart as it normally does when validating the settings (which is a good clue that something is broken). I do the "rename saved games folder/repair" thing, and MSAA joy is back... But every 4 or 5 missions, the game eventually crash to desktop again, and I have to do trick all over again, which is quite a PITA, to say the least... What is weird, is that when MSAA is broken, I don't feel any performance gain as if it was normally off... So for the coming days, I'm back to pancake with good old trackIR to enjoy the beauty of 2.7 (no experience with 2D 2.5.6 to say if I gained or lost any perf...) Any clue for what could break MSAA ingame?? "An optimist is a guy who plants two seeds and runs to buy a hammock" Ryzen 7 7800X3D | Asus ROG Strix B650E-F Gaming WiFi | MSI RTX 4090 Gaming X Trio | 32Go Corsair Vengeance 32Go DDR5 6000Mt/s CL30 | MasterLiquid ML360R | Corsair NVMe M.2 1To x2 | Seagate 2To SATA III | TM Warthog stick base w/ F/A-18C grip + WW Orion 2 throttle w/ F/A-18C grips | FSSB R3 L w/ TM F-16C grip + TM Viper TQS | MFG Crosswind V3 w/ damper kit | Meta Quest 3 128Go | Dell S2722DGM Mirage 2000C | F/A-18C | F-16C | Su-33 | Mig 29 | Supercarrier | Nevada | Persian Gulf | Normandie 2.0 | Syria | South Atlantic | Sinai
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted April 21, 2021 ED Team Posted April 21, 2021 Hi, I have not noticed this myself. We do have an issue with MSAA if it is applied and DCS is not restarted. In a future version changing MSAA will force a DCS reboot. Can you attach your dcs log the next time it happens so we can look for clues. thanks 2 Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, PIMAX Crystal
Pride37 Posted April 21, 2021 Author Posted April 21, 2021 Hi BigNewy, Thanks for your quick reply. Next time it happens I'll attach the log. I fully understand it's Open Beta and things still need to be tweaked, it's normal considering the huge job you've done for this awesome update, and I'm confident that major bugs and perf downgrade some of us are experiencing will be sorted out soon. Keep up the great job! 1 "An optimist is a guy who plants two seeds and runs to buy a hammock" Ryzen 7 7800X3D | Asus ROG Strix B650E-F Gaming WiFi | MSI RTX 4090 Gaming X Trio | 32Go Corsair Vengeance 32Go DDR5 6000Mt/s CL30 | MasterLiquid ML360R | Corsair NVMe M.2 1To x2 | Seagate 2To SATA III | TM Warthog stick base w/ F/A-18C grip + WW Orion 2 throttle w/ F/A-18C grips | FSSB R3 L w/ TM F-16C grip + TM Viper TQS | MFG Crosswind V3 w/ damper kit | Meta Quest 3 128Go | Dell S2722DGM Mirage 2000C | F/A-18C | F-16C | Su-33 | Mig 29 | Supercarrier | Nevada | Persian Gulf | Normandie 2.0 | Syria | South Atlantic | Sinai
captainHelmet Posted April 21, 2021 Posted April 21, 2021 I wonder if this has something to do with the MSAA mask. You can adjust that mask down so that you have no MSAA applied, but it doesn't come with a performance improvement. I wonder if that is related to the way that you don't see any MSAA but still see the performance drop as if it was working. 1
speed-of-heat Posted April 21, 2021 Posted April 21, 2021 MSAA mask was in 2.5.6 it doesnt work as a performance tool. because of when the effect is added in... SYSTEM SPECS: Hardware AMD 9800X3D, 64Gb RAM, 4090 FE, Virpil T50CM3 Throttle, WinWIng Orion 2 & F-16EX + MFG Crosswinds V2, Varjo Aero SOFTWARE: Microsoft Windows 11, VoiceAttack & VAICOM PRO YOUTUBE CHANNEL: @speed-of-heat
Pride37 Posted April 22, 2021 Author Posted April 22, 2021 (edited) Hi BigNewy, Happened again 15mins ago. I installed today's new patch, renamed again saved games and did a full repair. After that, it was really working beautifully, both in 2D (all settings maxed out) and VR (pretty high settings also.) Free Flight mission in Syria with Hornet, this map used to stress my rig quite a bit in 2.5.6 and I have the feeling I have a bit better perf than before. Exited the mission and tried to lauch M2000C night landing in PG, and BAM... Crashed to desktop (in 2D this time, not VR but the effect is the same.) I restarted the game, and immediatelly found MSAA was broken again and was unable to put it back on. Attached herewith is the log (not sure which file you need, so I put all 3...) I have the feeling that if I want to avoid CTD, I need to restart the game between each mission. Thanks in advance for your help. Edit: Oh, and I forgot to say that I also lost about 20 to 30% in perf on the same mission after I restarted. I know it sounds like what many other users are currently experiencing, but I know it will be back on good perfs with the "rename saved games" trick... At least for me... dcs.log dcs.log-20210422-212841.zip debrief.log Edited April 22, 2021 by Pride37 "An optimist is a guy who plants two seeds and runs to buy a hammock" Ryzen 7 7800X3D | Asus ROG Strix B650E-F Gaming WiFi | MSI RTX 4090 Gaming X Trio | 32Go Corsair Vengeance 32Go DDR5 6000Mt/s CL30 | MasterLiquid ML360R | Corsair NVMe M.2 1To x2 | Seagate 2To SATA III | TM Warthog stick base w/ F/A-18C grip + WW Orion 2 throttle w/ F/A-18C grips | FSSB R3 L w/ TM F-16C grip + TM Viper TQS | MFG Crosswind V3 w/ damper kit | Meta Quest 3 128Go | Dell S2722DGM Mirage 2000C | F/A-18C | F-16C | Su-33 | Mig 29 | Supercarrier | Nevada | Persian Gulf | Normandie 2.0 | Syria | South Atlantic | Sinai
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