spinbirdman Posted May 4, 2021 Posted May 4, 2021 Greetings! I've created a mission on DCS Mission Editor. Whatever I do, the KC135 MPRS, is not responding. 1.) Easy radio is 'unchecked', both in my settings and mission's settings. 2.) the radio is tuned and checked, different UHF AM (F16 com 1) frequencies have been tried and tested. 3.) DCS repair has been done. P.S. - Mission attached below. - I can perfectly communicate with the tanker in SP Instant Mission AAR - I can communicate with tankers on multiplayer servers as well. I would highly appreciate any help. Thank You OPERATION MORNING FURY - MP Test MIZ SG.miz
Solution Florence201 Posted May 4, 2021 Solution Posted May 4, 2021 (edited) Viper cannot tank off the MPRS. Only the KC-135 boom tanker As such, the MPRS will give you a stiff ignoring. IRL, MPRS will do both boom and drogue, but not in DCS Edited May 4, 2021 by Florence201 1 1 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
spinbirdman Posted May 4, 2021 Author Posted May 4, 2021 (edited) Really? I didn't know that. I'll change the tanker and revert back asap. Thank You Edit: It worked like a charm, I didn't know of this bug. Thank You Once again! Edited May 4, 2021 by spinbirdman 1
Rubberduck85 Posted May 5, 2021 Posted May 5, 2021 Yeah it's a shame there is not code to enable "dual mode" refueling for the MPRS, would be neat!Sent from my MI 10 Lite 5G using Tapatalk 1
Raven (Elysian Angel) Posted May 5, 2021 Posted May 5, 2021 22 hours ago, spinbirdman said: I didn't know of this bug. Technically it's not a bug, but rather a limitation of the current game engine: you can have a tanker with either boom or drogue, but not both at the same time. It is a shame indeed. 1 Spoiler Ryzen 7 9800X3D | 96GB G.Skill Ripjaws M5 Neo DDR5-6000 | Asus ProArt RTX 4080 Super | ASUS ROG Strix X870E-E GAMING | Samsung 990Pro 2TB + 990Pro 4TB NMVe | VR: Varjo Aero VPC MT-50CM2 grip on VPForce Rhino with Z-curve extension | VPC CM3 throttle | VPC CP2 + 3 | FSSB R3L | VPC Rotor TCS Plus base with SharKa-50 grip | Everything mounted on Monstertech MFC-1 | VPC R1-Falcon pedals with damper | Pro Flight Trainer Puma OpenXR | PD 1.0 | 100% render resolution | DCS graphics settings Win11 Pro 24H2 - VBS/HAGS/Game Mode ON
bradboom Posted May 24, 2021 Posted May 24, 2021 IRL, a MPRS KC-135 couldn’t refuel with both the boom and the drogue at the same time. The fuel plumbing won’t allow for it & aircraft being refueled would bump wingtips. Receivers are usually deconflicted by timing, but there are occasions when boom & drogue recievers show up at the same time. Typically, we’d refuel the boom receiver first, since the offload rate is so much faster, then do the drogue recievers next. 2
WhiskyTango Posted June 11, 2024 Posted June 11, 2024 OMG! Do you know how crazy this has been driving me and how many innocent electrons have been shot down in frustration? Glad I found this thread!
Dragon1-1 Posted June 26, 2024 Posted June 26, 2024 Yeah, MPRS version doesn't have a functional boom, and it's not obvious at a glance. It should be able to refuel boom and drogue aircraft in the same sortie (though not at the same time, see above). Chalk it up to old code that doesn't take it into account that such tankers exist.
skywalker22 Posted June 26, 2024 Posted June 26, 2024 1 hour ago, Dragon1-1 said: Yeah, MPRS version doesn't have a functional boom, and it's not obvious at a glance. It should be able to refuel boom and drogue aircraft in the same sortie (though not at the same time, see above). Chalk it up to old code that doesn't take it into account that such tankers exist. As you said, the KC-135 MPRS in real life can do both, actually three different types of refueling: 1. MPRS - provides two drogue-refueling points at the KC-135's wingtips without affecting the centerline boom's capability 2. boom - MPRS cannot not be used at the same time (planes like F/A-18 and F-16 can interchange between each other) 3. drogue refueling through the use of the boom-drogue adapter (BDA), but it has to be install on the ground, and cannot be changed during flight. Limitation is that MPRS cannot be used. -- Due to DCS engine limitation, MPRS tanker cannot use the boom version. I hope this will be changed in the future.
Dragon1-1 Posted June 26, 2024 Posted June 26, 2024 I don't think there's much point of installing the Iron Maiden (BDA) if MPRS is available. Then again, if you're doing a lot of basket refueling, it might be useful. As in, you can threaten the pilots that if they rip off both baskets, they'll get a go at the Maiden instead.
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