[NO BUG] sight of the cannon a-g is not precise

[LeonXD123]

Hello, I do this discussion in order to solve this problem that has been in the harrier for a long time, which is the low precision of the ag gun sight, I would not know how to explain this bug exactly but the thing that looks at it does not point where explode the ammunition. then I will leave captures and a .trk so that you can appreciate the error

sight error harrier.trk

[Vakarian]

I watched the track. To me, it all seems as expected.

 

You have to understand that the gunsight is "calibrated" to the elevation it has set in the system. In your case, that was the designation you made on your first attack run which is denoted by the diamond. Also, the shots you fired there landed bang on.

 

Next, you did a series of really shallow attacks while still having previous elevation setting stored so gun pipper was off. I do believe that Chicken did explain in some of the previous posts why shallow attacks are not a thing in which Harrier will create valid CCIP point for the gun, and in addition to that, there is that wrong elevation I mentioned before

 

So, reset your attack position, get a new target elevation and your CCIP pipper should be accurate

[LeonXD123]

hace 1 hora, Vakarian dijo:

I watched the track. To me, it all seems as expected.

 

You have to understand that the gunsight is "calibrated" to the elevation it has set in the system. In your case, that was the designation you made on your first attack run which is denoted by the diamond. Also, the shots you fired there landed bang on.

 

Next, you did a series of really shallow attacks while still having previous elevation setting stored so gun pipper was off. I do believe that Chicken did explain in some of the previous posts why shallow attacks are not a thing in which Harrier will create valid CCIP point for the gun, and in addition to that, there is that wrong elevation I mentioned before

 

So, reset your attack position, get a new target elevation and your CCIP pipper should be accurate

thanks but how i can reset the target designate?

[Vakarian]

Either move it with a TDC or I believe pressing NWS button will undesignate the target

[LeonXD123]

hace 13 minutos, Vakarian dijo:

Either move it with a TDC or I believe pressing NWS button will undesignate the target

thanks

 

[Wisky]

if you are not in tpod mode, simply pressing the NWS/Undesignate switch will undesignate your last target. If you are in TPOD mode and have a Map DESG you first have to go back to INS by pressing 2xSSS down, and then press the NWS button.

[myHelljumper]

@LeonXD123Could you report back if this is still an issue for you ?

[LeonXD123]

hace 4 horas, myHelljumper dijo:

@LeonXD123Could you report back if this is still an issue for you ?

Hello, I was inactive the last few days, I was investigating the error more thoroughly, what really happens is that when pressing space (gun trigger) a target mark is selected and when that happens the sight becomes inaccurate, that is, when selecting a target the sight becomes imprecise and when I remove the target if it becomes more precise, is there any way to deactivate the target marks on the gun?

[myHelljumper]

As said above, I understand that you need to designate a point near the place you want to shoot, or at least at the same elevation. Are you doing this ?

 

I might be really wrong but I think I understand that the Harrier only way to know the distance to target is to designate the spot you are shooting at. The system gets ranging thanks to the nose camera doing magic or the TPOD laser. So if you don't designate the point you want to shoot at, the sight can't know distance, that's why it's inaccurate.

 

Again, I might be talking nonsense here, I don't know a lot about the Harrier.

[Vakarian]

@myHelljumper Yes, you are correct.

 

@LeonXD123 There is no "error", you need to learn how the aircraft operates. Here, if you see on my track, I deliberately put some targets on Kobuleti X runway, and couple on the nearby hill.

I took out 2 trucks on the Kobuleti runway without undesignating target and as the targets are on the same elevation, gun pipper was providing accurate solution so I managed to hit both targets.

Then, without undesignating, I tried to hit the targets on the hill. That resulted in a miss, as the aircraft calculated gun impact point thinking the target is ~1000ft lower than it actually is. After that I undesignated TD, reengaged the same trucks on the hill and managed to score a hit as the aircraft "calculated" (this part is still magically happening, it shouldn't be able to make this calculation so fast IIRC) correct impact point for the gun.

Then, I returned to the Konuleti X runway to demonstrate that while the aircraft had the TD (target designation) still up on the hill, it couldn't calculate the proper aiming point for the targets back on the runway as they are on lower elevation than the hill.

HarrierTargetDesignationImpactsGunPipper.trk

[myHelljumper]

Hey guys, I'm moving this to resolved since there is no bug.

 

Thanks :).