Less Clouds…

[SharpeXB]

Ok the clouds are beautiful! They’re also the kind of weather that every enemy on the ground is praying for

Sure it’s fun and breathtaking and gorgeous to hunt for ground targets through breaks in the clouds and such. But it makes selecting certain weapons like laser guided bombs fully impractical. Maybe it could be dialed back just a bit…

[kreisch]

You know that this is up to the mission editor? There are enough settings with less clouds.

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[SharpeXB]

Sure it obviously is, this is a suggestion for mission and campaign creators too. What we need is a weather briefing. Don’t know if the mission editor can do that or not. 

Edited July 2, 2021 by SharpeXB

[G.J.S]

If you hover your mouse over the selections of weather types, you get an idea of the weather coverage. 
Failing that, if cloud coverage over target is too much, consider JDAM over LGB, or go iron?

[SharpeXB]

3 minutes ago, G.J.S said:

If you hover your mouse over the selections of weather types, you get an idea of the weather coverage. 
Failing that, if cloud coverage over target is too much, consider JDAM over LGB, or go iron?

Well yeah I just pack JDAMs all the time now. 

[G.J.S]

Just now, SharpeXB said:

Well yeah I just pack JDAMs all the time now. 

Just thinking that, war loads for a certain target type can be changed due to environmental conditions in real ops if necessary.

[Tippis]

This already exists.

[SharpeXB]

1 hour ago, G.J.S said:

Just thinking that, war loads for a certain target type can be changed due to environmental conditions in real ops if necessary.

Yeah it would be cool to get a weather briefing. I’m doing the Pontus campaign, which is all random generated so that would be useful. A scripted campaign could obviously put this in the briefing and give you a suitable load out. 

[Furiz]

Weather report should be in every briefing, I can bet it happens in every real world brief as well, weather is an important part of the mission.

[G.J.S]

1 hour ago, Furiz said:

Weather report should be in every briefing, I can bet it happens in every real world brief as well, weather is an important part of the mission.

Met brief is of paramount importance in a real op. The weather can influence what tactics to employ, what munitions can or cannot be used, even the likelihood of actually locating the designated target to prosecute. You would (for a lengthy mission) in the briefing get current met at base, en-route, and target, and projected met for duration of mission for the same. You also get met for alternate landing fields that are pre-selected in case your main base is “socked in”. 

[Tank50us]

1 hour ago, G.J.S said:

Met brief is of paramount importance in a real op. The weather can influence what tactics to employ, what munitions can or cannot be used, even the likelihood of actually locating the designated target to prosecute. You would (for a lengthy mission) in the briefing get current met at base, en-route, and target, and projected met for duration of mission for the same. You also get met for alternate landing fields that are pre-selected in case your main base is “socked in”. 

 

Or if the weather is too bad, the mission is scrubbed entirely. The campaign my group is doing is planning to have a typhoon hit the area as part of the story.... we ain't flying in that! (but we will have to protect the people leaving the area obviously)

[G.J.S]

26 minutes ago, Tank50us said:

 

Or if the weather is too bad, the mission is scrubbed entirely. The campaign my group is doing is planning to have a typhoon hit the area as part of the story.... we ain't flying in that! (but we will have to protect the people leaving the area obviously)

Best of luck, and batten down the hatches!

[cfrag]

18 hours ago, SharpeXB said:

Ok the clouds are beautiful! They’re also the kind of weather that every enemy on the ground is praying for

Sure it’s fun and breathtaking and gorgeous to hunt for ground targets through breaks in the clouds and such. But it makes selecting certain weapons like laser guided bombs fully impractical. Maybe it could be dialed back just a bit…

 

Wait... isn't this from the AAR "GIT GUD!" troll? They now want a "weather cheat" so bombing gets easier? What ever happened to "practice makes perfect" or 'if you spent the time for complaining here on practicing instead, you would not need that'? Methinks bad weather is something that happens in the real world, and can be something to train to overcome. I'm sorely tempted to recommend that they take a dose of their own advice. Boy, am I glad that I'm not the vindictive kind (by which I mean that I am, and I love it )

 

For the record: less clouds is very easy to do in ME on the weather panel (there are one-click presets), and you can also add more if you prefer a greater challenge. IMC missions can be incredibly challenging, and I understand (and support) when people prefer to lessen the load and increase fun factor. I just don't abide by blatant hypocrisy.

[Tank50us]

3 hours ago, cfrag said:

 

Wait... isn't this from the AAR "GIT GUD!" troll? They now want a "weather cheat" so bombing gets easier? What ever happened to "practice makes perfect" or 'if you spent the time for complaining here on practicing instead, you would not need that'? Methinks bad weather is something that happens in the real world, and can be something to train to overcome. I'm sorely tempted to recommend that they take a dose of their own advice. Boy, am I glad that I'm not the vindictive kind (by which I mean that I am, and I love it )

 

For the record: less clouds is very easy to do in ME on the weather panel (there are one-click presets), and you can also add more if you prefer a greater challenge. IMC missions can be incredibly challenging, and I understand (and support) when people prefer to lessen the load and increase fun factor. I just don't abide by blatant hypocrisy.

And let's not forget that before too long, we'll have evolving weather patterns. Sure, the mission starts off as a bright sunny, but cold day.... but 90min later you're dealing with white-out conditions, snowflakes turned into tiny needles, and all kinds of fun things that will most certainly turn Tomcats into Harriers.

[SharpeXB]

4 hours ago, cfrag said:

Wait... isn't this from the AAR "GIT GUD!" troll? They now want a "weather cheat" so bombing gets easier?

A weather report isn’t a “cheat” and I’m sure any scripted campaign missions will start including forecasts for the missions now that we have actual weather. Realism is ok. 
Oh no I’m not complaining, like I said above the weather is gorgeous. I’m just struck by how lucky my enemies are I get to use all sorts of new tactics like the HMD in combination with the TGP to peek around cloud cover. 

And although it’s just breathtakingly beautiful I wonder if the real weather in the Caucuses or Syria is akin to Scotland. When you play these other flight sims with live weather enabled, many times the sky is just clear. 

Edited July 3, 2021 by SharpeXB

[Tippis]

25 minutes ago, SharpeXB said:

Oh no I’m not complaining, like I said above the weather is gorgeous. I’m just struck by how lucky my enemies are

Really? Your request is about clouds and that…

23 hours ago, SharpeXB said:

Maybe it could be dialed back just a bit…

…which is pretty much a direct complaint about their density.

 

It's also a very ignorant complaint since what you're asking for is already in the game — you're just not sufficiently familiar with basic functionality to realise that your request is pointless. When the pointlessness of your whinging was pointed out to you, you amended that complaint by also asking for…

22 hours ago, SharpeXB said:

What we need is a weather briefing. Don’t know if the mission editor can do that or not. 

Maybe you should investigate the matter beforehand so you do know before making requests, because that's the second thing you're asking for that already exists, making it doubly pointless. You keep saying that what people wish for is a waste of developers' time. What you're asking for is a waste of everyone's time, three times so for the developers since they'd end up re-doing work that has already been done just to get back to the exact same functionality.

 

25 minutes ago, SharpeXB said:

And although it’s just breathtakingly beautiful I wonder if the real weather in the Caucuses or Syria is akin to Scotland.

Weather is weather. Clouds are clouds. Rain is rain. Sun is sun. Lightning is lightning. Wind is wind.

A little research would go a long way, and it would also help you set the proper weather for the proper region.

[Furiz]

Get rdy for 25 pages of meaningless discussion by Tippis

 

we only asked for Briefing on weather Tippis pls don't write a 100000 page book on it.