RAF Akrotiri AI A330 size aircraft help

[Jason32]

Can anyone help please?

 

I'm trying to place on the ground and use AI RAF Voyager (A330s) aircraft but RAF Akrotiri wont let me place them on any parking slots. 

 

Comes up with Error set to airfield. No free airport

 

Real world Voyagers use the base so not to do this on this scenery seems crazy to me, unless i'm doing something wrong.

 

Any ideas please?

 

Thanks

 

Jason

Edited July 20, 2021 by Jason32

[SKYPORK]

Select "Take off from ground" Instead of "take off from ramp" when setting up the object's first waypoint (0)  Selecting "takeoff/start from ground" will allow the plane to be placed anywhere on the map. Well, except the water....

Edited July 20, 2021 by SKYPORK

[Jason32]

I've tried that SkyPork, but there's no option for AI to 'take off from ground' for the A330. 

 

The choices i have are :

 

Turning point

Fly over point

Takeoff from runway

Takeoff from ramp 

Takeoff from parking hot

 

 

[sirrah]

Takeoff/start from ground is only available for client and player aircraft (and probably AI VTOL aircraft I think), for the obvious reason that AI wouldn't be able to know how and where to taxi.

 

Also, using mods (such as the A330) may cause things to not work entirely like you want them to.

Edited July 20, 2021 by sirrah

[western_JPN]

Hi.

 

RAF Voyager (A330 MRTT) is built from A300-200 (short body .... 58.82 m Length X 60.3 m Wingspan) .

But current Civil Aircraft Mod's A330 is modeled  from its -300 (long body .... 63.67 m Length X 60.3 m Wingspan) variant.

 

So, to operate CAM's A330 as RAF Voyager on Syria map; RAF Akrotiri , to be needed to allow parking and taxing 65 m L X 61 m W size aircrafts.

I don't know historical  RAF Akrotiri operation thought, it looks 2 spots --- B1 and B2 --- fit A330 MRTT ?

I also request it to Ugra Media.

 

 

 

By the way, Civil Aircraft Mod is a mod and we can change A330's spec values in touching its lua file.

In decreasing Length and Wingspan values in A_330.lua like ...

 

wing_span = 60.3,
line changing into 
wing_span = 51.7,

and

length = 63.67,
line changing into 
length = 55.35,

... then we become able to place A330 on RAF Akrotiri with "Takeoff from Ramp" or "Takeoff from parking hot" waypoint types.

 

And once the mission building is completed and the .miz file is saved , we can revert A_330.lua values into historical 60.3 and 63.67 ones.

Parking spot blocking decision is done only in Mission Editor operating, but not in missions' executing.

Oversized A330s can be placed we wish and taxi .... takeoff.

 

 

[Jason32]

Changing the values has worked a treat,  thankyou! 

 

I can now make my Akrotiri more realistic, thanks again western_JPN.

[AvgeekJoe]

Thanks for this.  Hopefully Ugra Media can please fine-tune their airports.  I like the idea of civilian & military transport traffic maybe requiring a holding pattern before landing after a deep strike into Syria or Lebanon.

[western_JPN]

On 7/25/2021 at 4:48 PM, western_JPN said:

RAF Voyager (A330 MRTT) is built from A300-200 (short body .... 58.82 m Length X 60.3 m Wingspan) .

But current Civil Aircraft Mod's A330 is modeled  from its -300 (long body .... 63.67 m Length X 60.3 m Wingspan) variant.

By today's 2.9.8 .1107 update patch,
Akrotiri can handle historical A330 MRTT (KC-30A) or A330-200 spec aircraft (58.82 m Length X 60.3 m Wingspan) ramp-starting and taxing.
Slots 01-02, A1-A4, B1-B2, E1, E3, F5, F6 are allowed in Mission Editor.

Aleppo's slot 15 is also (and only) available for historical A330 MRTT size, today.

Other airbases / airports still don't allow A330 MRTT ; Incirlik , Damascus , Beirut , Larnaca , Paphos --- No.

With historical A330-300 variant spec (63.67 m Length X 60.3 m Wingspan) , ME says "No free airport" even in the latest patch.

When you want to use Civil Aircraft Mod's A330 (-300) on Syria map, you have to decrease A_330.lua's length value to 58.82 .