ebabil Posted September 5, 2021 Posted September 5, 2021 Hi guys I have tmwh stick and thinking of buying orion stick too for hornet. If I buy orion stick, can I use my tm f16 stick with orion base? Is it compatible? Because I want to keep using f16 stick when I fly with f16 and a10c Thanks FC3 | UH-1 | Mi-8 | A-10C II | F/A-18 | Ka-50 III | F-14 | F-16 | AH-64 | Mi-24 | F-5 | F-15E| F-4| Tornado Persian Gulf | Nevada | Syria | NS-430 | Supercarrier // Wishlist: CH-53 | UH-60 Youtube MS FFB2 - TM Warthog - CH Pro Pedals - Trackir 5
The LT Posted September 5, 2021 Posted September 5, 2021 Hi guys I have tmwh stick and thinking of buying orion stick too for hornet. If I buy orion stick, can I use my tm f16 stick with orion base? Is it compatible? Because I want to keep using f16 stick when I fly with f16 and a10c Thanks Otoh, I think the VPC CM2 base is a better choice. My controls & seat Main controls: , BRD-N v4 Flightstick (Kreml C5 controller), TM Warthog Throttle (Kreml F3 controller), BRD-F2 Restyling Bf-109 Pedals w. damper, TrackIR5, Gametrix KW-908 (integrated into RAV4 seat) Stick grips: Thrustmaster Warthog Thrustmaster Cougar (x2) Thrustmaster F-16 FLCS BRD KG13 Standby controls: BRD-M2 Mi-8 Pedals (Ruddermaster controller) BRD-N v3 Flightstick w. exch. grip upgrade (Kreml C5 controller) Thrustmaster Cougar Throttle Pilot seat
ebabil Posted September 5, 2021 Author Posted September 5, 2021 Now I am focused on orion. So i would be appreciated if this info provided FC3 | UH-1 | Mi-8 | A-10C II | F/A-18 | Ka-50 III | F-14 | F-16 | AH-64 | Mi-24 | F-5 | F-15E| F-4| Tornado Persian Gulf | Nevada | Syria | NS-430 | Supercarrier // Wishlist: CH-53 | UH-60 Youtube MS FFB2 - TM Warthog - CH Pro Pedals - Trackir 5
The LT Posted September 5, 2021 Posted September 5, 2021 Now I am focused on orion. So i would be appreciated if this info provided You can use it with an adapter sold on their site https://wwsimstore.com/p/321.html , but jfyi, the simapp pro software lacks any sort of programmability of the buttons, so using any other wh-compatible stick with different shift register config than warthog/cougar will yield unpredictable results. There is no reason to get the orion base as it is clearly inferior on every level to vpc or vkb bases.And yes, I do own and am a user of ww products.I also suggest waiting until thanksgiving when they announce their F-16 throttle and stick. My controls & seat Main controls: , BRD-N v4 Flightstick (Kreml C5 controller), TM Warthog Throttle (Kreml F3 controller), BRD-F2 Restyling Bf-109 Pedals w. damper, TrackIR5, Gametrix KW-908 (integrated into RAV4 seat) Stick grips: Thrustmaster Warthog Thrustmaster Cougar (x2) Thrustmaster F-16 FLCS BRD KG13 Standby controls: BRD-M2 Mi-8 Pedals (Ruddermaster controller) BRD-N v3 Flightstick w. exch. grip upgrade (Kreml C5 controller) Thrustmaster Cougar Throttle Pilot seat
MustangSally Posted September 5, 2021 Posted September 5, 2021 9 hours ago, ebabil said: Hi guys I have tmwh stick and thinking of buying orion stick too for hornet. If I buy orion stick, can I use my tm f16 stick with orion base? Is it compatible? Because I want to keep using f16 stick when I fly with f16 and a10c Thanks Yes, just purchase the adapter from WW's store $9.90. You will have to disassemble the stick but there are decent vids on youtube that will lead you through it. ....and no, I don't recommend the VPC CM2 base. Ryzen 9 7950X3D - MSI MAG X670E TomaHawk MB, ASUS ROG Ryujin III 360 AIO 64gig Corsair DDR5@6000, Gigabyte GeForce RTX 4090 AORUS Winwing Super Taurus, Orion2, TO / Combat panels, Collective with Topgun MIP Winwing Skywalker pedals, NLR Boeing Mil Edition Simpit, 55" Samsung Odyssey Ark, Trackir
The LT Posted September 5, 2021 Posted September 5, 2021 ....and no, I don't recommend the VPC CM2 base.And the reason is? You got both, I assume? You will have to disassemble the stickWhich would, unfortunately, make it incompatible with the Warthog. Something to keep in mind. My controls & seat Main controls: , BRD-N v4 Flightstick (Kreml C5 controller), TM Warthog Throttle (Kreml F3 controller), BRD-F2 Restyling Bf-109 Pedals w. damper, TrackIR5, Gametrix KW-908 (integrated into RAV4 seat) Stick grips: Thrustmaster Warthog Thrustmaster Cougar (x2) Thrustmaster F-16 FLCS BRD KG13 Standby controls: BRD-M2 Mi-8 Pedals (Ruddermaster controller) BRD-N v3 Flightstick w. exch. grip upgrade (Kreml C5 controller) Thrustmaster Cougar Throttle Pilot seat
MustangSally Posted September 6, 2021 Posted September 6, 2021 2 hours ago, The LT said: And the reason is? You got both, I assume? Which would, unfortunately, make it incompatible with the Warthog. Something to keep in mind. Sorry to say that my time with Virpil wasn't great.....throttle and stick If you only use a Libra/Orion it's a non issue Ryzen 9 7950X3D - MSI MAG X670E TomaHawk MB, ASUS ROG Ryujin III 360 AIO 64gig Corsair DDR5@6000, Gigabyte GeForce RTX 4090 AORUS Winwing Super Taurus, Orion2, TO / Combat panels, Collective with Topgun MIP Winwing Skywalker pedals, NLR Boeing Mil Edition Simpit, 55" Samsung Odyssey Ark, Trackir
The LT Posted September 6, 2021 Posted September 6, 2021 Sorry to say that my time with Virpil wasn't great.....throttle and stick If you only use a Libra/Orion it's a non issueYeah, I had a few issues myself, but nothing too major. Had a couple of their throttles for testing too and decided in favor of the Taurus. Not fond of their buttons and hats. But I still believe the mt50 cm2 base is still the best in its class in versatility and overall performance. I do have quite a few wh-compatible sticks though. Mostly fly the TM hog and hornet sticks. Winwing should have made the libra and orion bases 100% TM compatible and programmable. Then we would have a winner on our hands. My controls & seat Main controls: , BRD-N v4 Flightstick (Kreml C5 controller), TM Warthog Throttle (Kreml F3 controller), BRD-F2 Restyling Bf-109 Pedals w. damper, TrackIR5, Gametrix KW-908 (integrated into RAV4 seat) Stick grips: Thrustmaster Warthog Thrustmaster Cougar (x2) Thrustmaster F-16 FLCS BRD KG13 Standby controls: BRD-M2 Mi-8 Pedals (Ruddermaster controller) BRD-N v3 Flightstick w. exch. grip upgrade (Kreml C5 controller) Thrustmaster Cougar Throttle Pilot seat
Topo Posted September 13, 2021 Posted September 13, 2021 Thrustmaster warthog stick is compatible with Orion base and adapter, but isn't recommended because it's too heavy.
Recluse Posted February 1, 2022 Posted February 1, 2022 On 9/13/2021 at 11:59 AM, Topo said: Thrustmaster warthog stick is compatible with Orion base and adapter, but isn't recommended because it's too heavy. Bit of a Thread Resurrection here... I bought the adapter just in case, though I didn't think I would ever use it. Just started messing with the A-10C and I find I want my TMS back, so was going to put on the Cougar grip. I AM leery of the Cougar weight on the ORION base. Wondering how many folks have actually done it and if it it OK despite the weight? Not sure I want to "spring" (no pun intended) for the new WinWing F-16 grip, though it looks mighty sweet! As an aside, anyone have an A-10C HOTAS mapping for the stock F/A-18 ORION that they would like to share? I was going to use the little RECCE MARK Hat as TMS, but as I fly in VR, I tend to use that for the DCS MENUS radio mod as well as paging through the Kneeboard.
Topo Posted February 1, 2022 Posted February 1, 2022 I had tried the Warthog stick, and it was actually a little too heavy for the Orion base; if the Cougar stick weighs the same, then it could be too "soft"
Recluse Posted February 1, 2022 Posted February 1, 2022 Just now, Topo said: I had tried the Warthog stick, and it was actually a little too heavy for the Orion base; if the Cougar stick weighs the same, then it could be too "soft" I am guessing the Cougar weighs pretty much the same as the Warthog...so probably a no-go.
SrSosio Posted April 2, 2023 Posted April 2, 2023 On 2/1/2022 at 1:19 PM, Recluse said: Bit of a Thread Resurrection here... I bought the adapter just in case, though I didn't think I would ever use it. Just started messing with the A-10C and I find I want my TMS back, so was going to put on the Cougar grip. I AM leery of the Cougar weight on the ORION base. Wondering how many folks have actually done it and if it it OK despite the weight? Not sure I want to "spring" (no pun intended) for the new WinWing F-16 grip, though it looks mighty sweet! As an aside, anyone have an A-10C HOTAS mapping for the stock F/A-18 ORION that they would like to share? I was going to use the little RECCE MARK Hat as TMS, but as I fly in VR, I tend to use that for the DCS MENUS radio mod as well as paging through the Kneeboard. I'm looking for a WH to WW adaptor, but unfortunately they don't sell it anymore. Any chance you would like to sell yours?
Swiso Posted October 25, 2023 Posted October 25, 2023 Same here, Eventually could it be possible to know the dimensions of the metal "screw" and the cable wiring connections ?
SrSosio Posted October 26, 2023 Posted October 26, 2023 (edited) 14 hours ago, Swiso said: Same here, Eventually could it be possible to know the dimensions of the metal "screw" and the cable wiring connections ? The pinout you can find it here: Virpil or Thrustmaster stick with winwing base pinout/cable : hotas (reddit.com) The thread is an M36x2. Someone already made a 3d print design: Warthog Stick threaded sleeve for winwing base by isotope_jx - Thingiverse Edited October 26, 2023 by Assamita 1
Swiso Posted October 26, 2023 Posted October 26, 2023 10 minutes ago, Assamita said: The pinout you can find it here: Virpil or Thrustmaster stick with winwing base pinout/cable : hotas (reddit.com) The thread is an M36x2. Someone already made a 3d print design: Warthog Stick threaded sleeve for winwing base by isotope_jx - Thingiverse Thank you very much for these details ! I have found one adapter from one user of this forum and I am waiting for the the shipping quite. In any case these infos are very useful! Thanks !
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