Realsim FSSB legit?

[CybrSlydr]

I like that I can use my Cougar stick with it.

 

But man it's expensive.

 

Is it really worth that kind d of cash? How could I use it with my Cougar throttle?

 

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[Supmua]

Yep. They sell high-end military sim gear mostly to the professional sectors. The FSSB price isn’t too bad considering the professional version would cost 2,500 Euro.

I don’t have the Cougar but you can buy an adapter from them (or other vendors) to connect the throttle directly to the PC.

[CybrSlydr]

So I would need to use the TUSBA.  Ok - good to know since that'd add another $80e.  lol 

Yeah - 450e is $522 USD.  That's...  Wow.

Woof.  

Just checked their other stuff - $6ke for like as close to a licensed replica as you can get.  Wow.  That better be some insane stuff!

Edited October 25, 2021 by CybrSlydr

[The LT]

Their pro stuff just has milspec switches and a commercial license. Home stuff is just fine for us.

[MAXsenna]

So I would need to use the TUSBA.  Ok - good to know since that'd add another $80e.  lol 
Yeah - 450e is $522 USD.  That's...  Wow.
Woof.  
Just checked their other stuff - $6ke for like as close to a licensed replica as you can get.  Wow.  That better be some insane stuff!

Just so you know. There are alternatives to the TUSBA, might not be less expensive, but way better. IMHO.
There are other options for the base too. But I have a feeling the RealSim software might be pretty superior.

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[CybrSlydr]

1 hour ago, MAXsenna said:

Just so you know. There are alternatives to the TUSBA, might not be less expensive, but way better. IMHO.
There are other options for the base too. But I have a feeling the RealSim software might be pretty superior.

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And what makes them better?  

[The LT]

And what makes them better?  

Tusba is pretty basic functionality-wise and was designed a long time ago... If you're into DIY, there are plenty of options to convert the cougar to magnetic sensors and advanced controller.

[MAXsenna]

And what makes them better?  

The original Cougar TQS still has analog POTs, so if I understand the TUSBA correctly, it just converts an analog "gameport" (with all it's spikes) to a digital USB compatible signal. You can find real conversion kits that makes it a true contactless true USB device. All in about minutes, depending on your thumbs.
For the stick/grip, you can do the same, but why, when RealSim has a great option.
But like I wrote. They are not alone, but software wise, they might lead.
But I'm holding out for alternatives, for my own reasons.
Google Vipergear and/or rel4y

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[The LT]

The original Cougar TQS still has analog POTs, so if I understand the TUSBA correctly, it just converts an analog "gameport" (with all it's spikes) to a digital USB compatible signal. You can find real conversion kits that makes it a true contactless true USB device. All in about minutes, depending on your thumbs.
For the stick/grip, you can do the same, but why, when RealSim has a great option.
But like I wrote. They are not alone, but software wise, they might lead.
But I'm holding out for alternatives, for my own reasons.
Google Vipergear and/or rel4y

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Yup, I would wait a few months to see what is in development and who will deliver the best throttle.

[MAXsenna]

Yup, I would wait a few months to see what is in development and who will deliver the best throttle.

Ouch! Yes, that is my problem.
There won't be any stick/throttle to rule'm all.


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[Supmua]

Ouch! Yes, that is my problem.
There won't be any stick/throttle to rule'm all.


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There might be and I’ll get to show you soon, but I might be a bit biased .

[CybrSlydr]

11 minutes ago, Supmua said:

There might be and I’ll get to show you soon, but I might be a bit biased .

Great if it's nice and all, but something that doesn't cost an arm and a leg would be great too.

[The LT]

There might be and I’ll get to show you soon, but I might be a bit biased .

Mind if I take a peek? Just a tiny look?

[MAXsenna]

There might be and I’ll get to show you soon, but I might be a bit biased .

Nah! I've watched you're video.
Unless you get a throttle that can alternate between linear and pivoting that is! Haha
And I'd want one more thing as well, but that's just me.
But I'd say the new RealSim F-35 throttle looks sweet, I'd wager it's not for me.

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Mind if I take a peek? Just a tiny look?

Just ask him for the link to the YT vid.

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Great if it's nice and all, but something that doesn't cost an arm and a leg would be great too.

Don't think that's possible. Sorry!

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[evilnate]

I have a TMWH HOTAS. The stick has always had a little twist slop even though the metal nut was tight. I assume this is slop with metal pin in slot that is too wide.

Does anyone have this stick mounted in the FSSB base? If yes, is there some slop in the twist for you or is it tight?

[Munkwolf]

32 minutes ago, evilnate said:

I have a TMWH HOTAS. The stick has always had a little twist slop even though the metal nut was tight. I assume this is slop with metal pin in slot that is too wide.

Does anyone have this stick mounted in the FSSB base? If yes, is there some slop in the twist for you or is it tight?

I never had any twist on my TMWH, but after getting FSSB + angle adapter and using WH stick on it, it did have a little 'pop' where it would slightly shift when crossing the vertical center. Tightened the heck out of it, tried shims, tried a second WH stick... not sure if it was the WH attachment mechanism or the RealSim angle adapter that was the root of it.

Ended up getting the RealSim F16 grip, and really like it over the WH for the FSSB. The attachment mechanism is way better than the WH. Plus all the buttons/hats are 5-way hats, and that opened up my input config options beyond what the WH could offer.

[evilnate]

Thanks @Munkwolf. When you use this device with DCS, is it necessary to run the software or is the software only ran as needed to config?

[Munkwolf]

Just now, evilnate said:

Thanks @Munkwolf. When you use this device with DCS, is it necessary to run the software or is the software only ran as needed to config?

You're welcome. Only need to run software for config

[Supmua]

Mind if I take a peek? Just a tiny look?

Will post first impressions this weekend.

[evilnate]

One more question.

I have a butt kicker thing on my cockpit that makes vibrating effects when flying. Does anyone think this could cause the FSSB device to fail prematurely? I sent a email to real simulator but didn’t get a response.

[Supmua]

1 hour ago, evilnate said:

One more question.
I have a butt kicker thing on my cockpit that makes vibrating effects when flying. Does anyone think this could cause the FSSB device to fail prematurely? I sent a email to real simulator but didn’t get a response.

I don’t have a buttkicker but have been using a jetseat device without any issue. My FSSB is at least 3-4 years old now.

It’s designed to take some beating but not superstrong at the connection point, constant vibration is fine but long term use of excessive force is probably not a good idea. My advice is not to set the resistance force in setting beyond max limit (lower if you can) if you want a long lasting device.

 

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Edited November 1, 2021 by Supmua

[evilnate]

Thanks @Supmua. Vibrations should be okay, arm wrestling is not.