No updates to the Tomcat in today's patch?

[Horns]

19 hours ago, Clunk1001 said:

Yes, I know I can absolutely fly at night, but I cannot fly at night properly as the gauges are unreadable:

Instrument readability is absolutely key.

I know that getting the colour of the flight suit of the cockpit pilot absolutely the right shade of green is important (to some),  but I'd suggest there are other priorities which need addressed.

I know I'm being harsh.  I've 20 years as a pilot, 30 years in various simulators (both home and commercial) and I genuinely think I've had the most fun in Heatblur's F14B Tomcat (at night, in bad weather).  It is an absolute masterpiece!  but please fix the flood lighting

 

No need to be sarcastic. Raven never said the pilot model was a greater priority or more important than your lighting issue, IronMike listed outstanding items and this was mentioned as one. Your issue is not the only one being talked about in the thread.

[Baz000]

Red, unlike white flood lighting preserves your night vision and you don't lose it.

38 minutes ago, Clunk1001 said:

Actually, at night, I always flew with a low floodlight on (though this was civilian flying and not in f14 obvs).  Has more to do with spacial orientation and emergency procedures. If something goes bang, you don’t want your first action to be trying to find the cockpit lights or fumbling with a torch.  If your cockpit is black yes you’ve got better night vision (takes about 20 mins to get), right up to the point the guy next to you (or behind you) puts his torch on to find a sandwich or a switch. A low floodlight always worked for me, thats what I’m used to, that’s why I was a bit upset about the floodlight in the f14b (old habits)….or maybe I’m afraid of the dark?

 

 

[Clunk1001]

5 minutes ago, Horns said:

No need to be sarcastic. Raven never said the pilot model was a greater priority or more important than your lighting issue, IronMike listed outstanding items and this was mentioned as one. Your issue is not the only one being talked about in the thread.

Sorry, no offence intended, was genuinely just meant as a light hearted banter.  I’m extremely appreciative of the work heatblur are doing, I’m in awe at what they’ve achieved,  and I’m aware the lighting issue is very minor in relation to all the other stuff they’re juggling.

[draconus]

14 minutes ago, Horns said:

...pilot model was a greater priority...

Of course it is. The instruments don't even make sense in the current drone version.

[Clunk1001]

1 minute ago, Baz000 said:

Red, unlike white flood lighting preserves your night vision and you don't lose it.

 

I know, we had red filter caps which clipped on the end of our torches to make the torch light red too (works well,  except that danger areas on maps are generally in red, and so they became invisible when viewed with a red filter on your torch).  Not all aircraft had red floodlighting though, I got used to low white (but the more I think about it the more I think I was just afraid of the dark).

[Baz000]

We had selectable white/red overhead lighting in the cabin on our firetrucks.

And also, during my short experience on the USS Gettysburg they used red overhead lighting in the passageways that were immediately connecting / leading to the exterior of the ship for this very purpose too.

[Clunk1001]

7 minutes ago, Baz000 said:

We had selectable white/red overhead lighting in the cabin on our firetrucks.

And also, during my short experience on the USS Gettysburg they used red overhead lighting in the passageways that were immediately connecting / leading to the exterior of the ship for this very purpose too.

 

9 minutes ago, Baz000 said:

We had selectable white/red overhead lighting in the cabin on our firetrucks.

And also, during my short experience on the USS Gettysburg they used red overhead lighting in the passageways that were immediately connecting / leading to the exterior of the ship for this very purpose too.

That makes sense, but a red lit corridor leading to blackness would definitely feel ominous to me …

[Baz000]

This sheds more "light" on the particular subject... Forgive the pun haha

https://www.passagemaker.com/technical/dim-white-at-night-red-night-lights-a-scientific-blunder

[Clunk1001]

17 minutes ago, Baz000 said:

This sheds more "light" on the particular subject... Forgive the pun haha

https://www.passagemaker.com/technical/dim-white-at-night-red-night-lights-a-scientific-blunder

That’s fascinating stuff.  I thought I was alone in my dim white light approach.

I hope they’re not thinking of implementing similar in Amsterdam though.

[Clunk1001]

33 minutes ago, Baz000 said:

This sheds more "light" on the particular subject... Forgive the pun haha

https://www.passagemaker.com/technical/dim-white-at-night-red-night-lights-a-scientific-blunder

Apologies to everyone else for hijacking this thread and turning it into a discussion on the physiological and psychological pros and cons of white vs red floodlighting..the psychological factors mentioned in the article are quiet interesting (I think that’s one reason why I prefer white),  if you’ve ever watched hunt for red October, the lighting of dim white vs red plays an important role throughout the film in setting the mood:

calm

Vs. not so calm

 

anyway, looking forward to getting my dim white light back, if anything heatblur will include it in the next patch just to shut me up….

[Baz000]

He really wanted to see Montana... Glad he did in Jurassic Park, oh and he had a RV too!

Edited November 20, 2021 by Baz000

[Dannyvandelft]

The lighting was incredible before ED's "big light" patch, which completely ruined it. Now when you jump in a night mission, the Cat looks like, well, an Amsterdam cathouse

@heatblur don't forget to do the Sparrowhawk HUD, MFD, AN/APG-71 and all the other goodies....

I'm kidding, calm down people.

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[Jayhawk1971]

Allegedly, the term "red light district" goes back the American Civil War, because General Joseph Hooker dedicated a part of the Union camp to that certain trade, and marked it by hanging up red lanterns. His last name also became the colloquial term for practitioners of said trade. Allegedly. And the Tomcat uses a tailhook to land on an aircraft carrier, so the circle is now complete.  

[Clunk1001]

Amazing job of the lighting in the last patch!  The last time I felt this immersed night flying in bad weather over the sea, was when I was flying at night in bad weather, over the sea.

Edited December 30, 2021 by Clunk1001