twistking Posted December 31, 2021 Posted December 31, 2021 Can we get the option to also add dumb (and laser guided) munitions to the bru-57 smart rack? It would allow for more symmetrical loadouts and should also be realistic. I don't see why the ground crew would change the whole rack only because they don't need the smart capabilities for a given bomb loadout. 1 My improved* wishlist after a decade with DCS *now with 17% more wishes compared to the original
Tholozor Posted December 31, 2021 Posted December 31, 2021 (edited) There's no point putting a dumb munition on a smart rack. It would basically be wasting a smart rack for another aircraft that may need it on another mission with compatible munitions. Squadrons may only have a certain amount of racks available. The rack would probably also need the data cables and disconnects capped. It's probably far easier to mount/dismount the rack than perform the conversion maintenance. As far as realism is concerned, that's how they load it: Edited December 31, 2021 by Tholozor 1 REAPER 51 | Tholozor VFA-136 (c.2007): https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/3305981/ Arleigh Burke Destroyer Pack (2020): https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/3313752/
twistking Posted December 31, 2021 Author Posted December 31, 2021 ok. fair enough... thanks for the info. My improved* wishlist after a decade with DCS *now with 17% more wishes compared to the original
twistking Posted December 31, 2021 Author Posted December 31, 2021 well, if you google, you can find a bunch of pictures of gbu-12s on bru-57s. i also found a picture of a viper with 2 rocket pods on a ter, but that's for another day... My improved* wishlist after a decade with DCS *now with 17% more wishes compared to the original
Deano87 Posted December 31, 2021 Posted December 31, 2021 (edited) 20 minutes ago, twistking said: well, if you google, you can find a bunch of pictures of gbu-12s on bru-57s. Where? and are they on F-16? Edited December 31, 2021 by Deano87 Proud owner of: PointCTRL VR : Finger Trackers for VR -- Real Simulator : FSSB R3L Force Sensing Stick. -- Deltasim : Force Sensor WH Slew Upgrade -- Mach3Ti Ring : Real Flown Mach 3 SR-71 Titanium, made into an amazing ring. My Fathers Aviation Memoirs: 50 Years of Flying Fun - From Hunter to Spitfire and back again.
twistking Posted December 31, 2021 Author Posted December 31, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Deano87 said: Where? and are they on F-16? one is, although it's hard to tell if those are bru-57. i think so though.... there are more pictures of bru-57 with gbu-12 on hornets. google image search: "bru-57 gbu-12" f.e. Edited December 31, 2021 by twistking My improved* wishlist after a decade with DCS *now with 17% more wishes compared to the original
Deano87 Posted December 31, 2021 Posted December 31, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, twistking said: one is, although it's hard to tell if those are bru-57. i think so though.... The GBU-12s in that pic are on a TER like we already have in the sim. They are far closer together and at a different angle than the JDAMS on the other wing. They can be used on the Hornet because clearance issues are less of a problem. The reason you can't have 3 GBU-12s on the TER is because its too close to whatever is on the inboard pylon, the same applies to the BRU-57. Edited December 31, 2021 by Deano87 Proud owner of: PointCTRL VR : Finger Trackers for VR -- Real Simulator : FSSB R3L Force Sensing Stick. -- Deltasim : Force Sensor WH Slew Upgrade -- Mach3Ti Ring : Real Flown Mach 3 SR-71 Titanium, made into an amazing ring. My Fathers Aviation Memoirs: 50 Years of Flying Fun - From Hunter to Spitfire and back again.
twistking Posted December 31, 2021 Author Posted December 31, 2021 5 minutes ago, Deano87 said: The GBU-12s in that pic are on a TER like we already have in the sim. They are far closer together and at a different angle than the JDAMS on the other wing. They can be used on the Hornet because clearance issues are less of a problem. The reason you can't have 3 GBU-12s on the TER is because its too close to whatever is on the inboard pylon, the same applies to the BRU-57. yes, that makes sense. fair enough... found the TER with rocket pods though: https://imgur.com/Wu5LtSH My improved* wishlist after a decade with DCS *now with 17% more wishes compared to the original
Deano87 Posted December 31, 2021 Posted December 31, 2021 1 minute ago, twistking said: yes, that makes sense. fair enough... found the TER with rocket pods though: https://imgur.com/Wu5LtSH That's pretty cool... Might be worth finding some more pics of it and requesting a seperate wish list item for it. Proud owner of: PointCTRL VR : Finger Trackers for VR -- Real Simulator : FSSB R3L Force Sensing Stick. -- Deltasim : Force Sensor WH Slew Upgrade -- Mach3Ti Ring : Real Flown Mach 3 SR-71 Titanium, made into an amazing ring. My Fathers Aviation Memoirs: 50 Years of Flying Fun - From Hunter to Spitfire and back again.
Deano87 Posted December 31, 2021 Posted December 31, 2021 (edited) Here's another one. That's however a LAU-68 which we don't have on the Viper in the sim I think. We have the LAU-3 which is a 19 rocket pod rather then being a 7 rocket pod like the LAU-68. Edited December 31, 2021 by Deano87 1 Proud owner of: PointCTRL VR : Finger Trackers for VR -- Real Simulator : FSSB R3L Force Sensing Stick. -- Deltasim : Force Sensor WH Slew Upgrade -- Mach3Ti Ring : Real Flown Mach 3 SR-71 Titanium, made into an amazing ring. My Fathers Aviation Memoirs: 50 Years of Flying Fun - From Hunter to Spitfire and back again.
Tholozor Posted December 31, 2021 Posted December 31, 2021 5 hours ago, twistking said: That's not a BRU-57, that's a BRU-33, which is not a smart rack. REAPER 51 | Tholozor VFA-136 (c.2007): https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/3305981/ Arleigh Burke Destroyer Pack (2020): https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/3313752/
twistking Posted December 31, 2021 Author Posted December 31, 2021 4 minutes ago, Tholozor said: That's not a BRU-57, that's a BRU-33, which is not a smart rack. oh, ok. thanks. My improved* wishlist after a decade with DCS *now with 17% more wishes compared to the original
Bunny Clark Posted January 2, 2022 Posted January 2, 2022 On 12/31/2021 at 1:02 PM, twistking said: oh, ok. thanks. Yup, the Navy and Air Force use different racks based on the BRU-33, all are pretty much identical from the outside. BRU-33 is a US Navy double rack with no smart weapon capabilities, and is used by the Hornet for carrying doubles of Paveways, CBU-99s, slick bombs, and rocket pods. BRU-55 is a US Navy double weapon smart rack, based on the BRU-33 with 1760 data lines added. BRU-57 is a US Air Force double weapon smart rack, also based on the BRU-33. The US Air force uses the TER-9 for carrying multiples of weapons that don't require a data connection. There are also data-enabled smart versions of the TER-9 that can carry three GBU-38/54s. 1 1 Oil In The Water Hornet Campaign. Bunny's: Form-Fillable Controller Layout PDFs | HOTAS Kneeboards | Checklist Kneeboards
Tholozor Posted January 2, 2022 Posted January 2, 2022 1 hour ago, Bunny Clark said: There are also data-enabled smart versions of the TER-9 that can carry three GBU-38/54s. I believe the one used by Marine Corps Harriers is the BRU-70 DITER. REAPER 51 | Tholozor VFA-136 (c.2007): https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/3305981/ Arleigh Burke Destroyer Pack (2020): https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/3313752/
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