Single AIM-120C-5 on station without draggy weighty multi-missile mount.

[Northstar98]

13 minutes ago, Bunny Clark said:

You keep moving the goalposts on this one. The only thing that's unrealistic with the Tomcat is carrying LANTIRN on a non-PTID upgraded aircraft. Heatblur have said they would have loved to have been able to model PTID, but could not find enough information on it. They considered making a cosmetic-only PTID that would swap in on any LANTRIN equipped aircraft, but decided against it.

Something very reasonable.

Everybody should realise nothing in DCS is ever going to be 100% realistic, and that's absolutely fine, so long as its reasonable: i.e due to a lack of data, or technical/financial/workload feasibility.

This is clearly the case for the PTID and clearly isn't the case for the AMRAAM pylon, especially when it's already realistic.

13 minutes ago, Bunny Clark said:

This is a clear concession to gameplay, as removing LANTRIN for want of more PTID info would have a removed a significant amount of capability from the module.

And worse, it removes capability that the Tomcat actually had for the timeframe the current ones represent (mid 90s - early-to-mid 2000s for the F-14A, and late 80s to mid 2000s for the F-14B, LANTIRN first coming in 1998).

13 minutes ago, Bunny Clark said:

Plus, this is a RIO-only issue, a human pilot flying the module would never know the difference, nor would anyone who isn't pixel peeping into the rear cockpit from the outside. It's a small sacrifice in realism for a significant gain in features.

Agreed.

13 minutes ago, Bunny Clark said:

Can you honestly say the single AMRAAM rail on the Hornet is an equivalent issue? The only "feature" you gain is a less draggy loadout when carrying a single missile on a station, in exchange for mounting a pylon that has never been used by a US Hornet, may not even be capable of mounting on a US Hornet, and is sitting on the outside of the aircraft for everyone in the game to see. 

Absolutely agreed.

[Durnt]

12 minutes ago, Northstar98 said:

Something very reasonable.

Everybody should realise nothing in DCS is ever going to be 100% realistic, and that's absolutely fine, so long as its reasonable: i.e due to a lack of data, or technical/financial/workload feasibility.

This is clearly the case for the PTID and clearly isn't the case for the AMRAAM pylon, especially when it's already realistic.

And worse, it removes capability that the Tomcat actually had for the timeframe the current ones represent (mid 90s - early-to-mid 2000s for the F-14A, and late 80s to mid 2000s for the F-14B, LANTIRN first coming in 1998).

Agreed.

Absolutely agreed.

 

Wow. The people in the Tomcat defense force are on another level.  

 

Having an unrealistic Tomcat: "nah it's cool, Tomcats are cool. RIO's slewing the tpod with no controller stick or PTID is not a problem. Tomcats are cool. Top Gun bro."

Having an unrealistic Hornet:  "That's not like real life, you can't do that, ED must fix this it's not perfect."

 

Also, I'm kind of over the amraam thing. I'm surprised this thread hasn't been nuked yet.

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