"Official" F-4E Livery Discussion

[greyseal494]

which model of the E are we getting?

[SgtPappy]

4 hours ago, greyseal494 said:

which model of the E are we getting?

There's an FAQ for questions like this pinned to the F-4 forum page: 

 

Edited January 2, 2024 by SgtPappy

[sBinnala64]

Supersonic gun kill phantom perhaps?

[Devil 505]

Any way we can get some love for Texas and have the 2 Liveries below released with the Phantom? Grew up with the old girl from the 457th Flying around Fort Worth as a kid. 

 

[Vampyre]

15 hours ago, Devil 505 said:

Any way we can get some love for Texas and have the 2 Liveries below released with the Phantom? Grew up with the old girl from the 457th Flying around Fort Worth as a kid. 

If you didn't notice 740643 Is a DMAS bird. You won't see it on the initial release but I'm willing to bet it will be in the release of the DMAS/ARN-101 F-4E. As for the 457th TFS, I'm pretty sure I saw a skin from that squadron in one of the recent videos. 

Edited January 18, 2024 by Vampyre
Pic of 457th TFS jet

[Devil 505]

7 hours ago, Vampyre said:

If you didn't notice 740643 Is a DMAS bird. You won't see it on the initial release but I'm willing to bet it will be in the release of the DMAS/ARN-101 F-4E. As for the 457th TFS, I'm pretty sure I saw a skin from that squadron in one of the recent videos. 

Outstanding Catch!!!! Much appreciated.  It will be the first livery I fly with.........in two weeks

[Volator]

12 hours ago, skywalker22 said:

The last livery is interesting but not very representative. It was an experimental livery that never made it into the fleet. I think this particular plane was called "Wolkenkuh" ("Cloud Cow") because of the very distinctive camo pattern.

[CarloVecchi]

Am 21.1.2024 um 09:58 schrieb Volator:

The last livery is interesting but not very representative. It was an experimental livery that never made it into the fleet. I think this particular plane was called "Wolkenkuh" ("Cloud Cow") because of the very distinctive camo pattern.

Wokenmaus (cloud mouse).

 

https://airfighters.com/photo/212294/M/Germany-Air-Force/McDonnell-Douglas-F-4F-Phantom-II/37-51/

Edited January 23, 2024 by CarloVecchi

[Volator]

Speaking of German liveries:

@ben_der Will we be able to modify “bort” numbers in a way that we can easily have individual but authentic registrations, like at least change the last two numbers behind the iron cross?

Edited January 23, 2024 by Volator

[RevampedGrunt]

2 hours ago, Volator said:

Speaking of German liveries:

@ben_der Will we be able to modify “bort” numbers in a way that we can easily have individual but authentic registrations, like at least change the last two numbers behind the iron cross?

 

I'm doubting this will be possible. Similar to the F-14, there's a ton of different style of borts between the various countries and the way ED made them, you would struggle to make them work with how many different positions and styles the aircraft have for bort positions. 

[79Au]

This rivet counter approach wouldn't be such a problem if they gave us more than 2-4 numbers per squadron. But apparently the livery guy likes to move on to the next fancy paint scheme rather than dealing with the disadvantages and consequences of using static numbers. (There was a screenshot on reddit and it looks like we're getting a grand total of 2 numbers per squadron for the F-4. But 200 different squadrons, of course) I don't mind rivet counting but what I do mind is ending up with just 4 numbers after 4 years of early access. (F-14) At this point I'd rather have "generic" dynamic numbers. HB's way of doing liveries is overambitioned and badly executed. 2 static numbers per squadron, not again, no thank you, hard pass.

[Stackup]

2 hours ago, 79Au said:

This rivet counter approach wouldn't be such a problem if they gave us more than 2-4 numbers per squadron. But apparently the livery guy likes to move on to the next fancy paint scheme rather than dealing with the disadvantages and consequences of using static numbers. (There was a screenshot on reddit and it looks like we're getting a grand total of 2 numbers per squadron for the F-4. But 200 different squadrons, of course) I don't mind rivet counting but what I do mind is ending up with just 4 numbers after 4 years of early access. (F-14) At this point I'd rather have "generic" dynamic numbers. HB's way of doing liveries is overambitioned and badly executed. 2 static numbers per squadron, not again, no thank you, hard pass.

Well they can't please everyone.  Having 4 liveries per squadron would likely lead to more complaints of bloated livery folders from people with more limited drive space who may not even own the aircraft but are forced to download it anyways because the liveries would be part of the base game.  And I don't see how having more available squadrons is a bad thing.  More squadrons is more opportunities for variety which is better in my opinion.  All Heatblur needs to give us is a variety, we users can fill in the gaps ourselves where we feel necessary.

Personally, the only time lack of livery options really bothers me is when I can't find what I want in the user files or a server doesn't allow custom ones which doesn't happen very often on ones I use.  I've downloaded around 58Gb of user liveries for the Tomcat alone (full liveries folder is 167Gb) with some including full squadron packs of individual liveries and I really appreciate the way this allows specific aircraft to have different levels of weathering and detailing that simply wouldn't be possible with generic bort numbers on a generic livery.  At this point, I'd be kind of annoyed if they did switch to a generic system.  I get not everyone wants to dig around on the user files or use up that much drive space on just liveries, but there's a lot of good livery makers who do really great work and installing liveries is super easy if what you want isn't included in the base game. 

[IronMike]

15 hours ago, 79Au said:

This rivet counter approach wouldn't be such a problem if they gave us more than 2-4 numbers per squadron. But apparently the livery guy likes to move on to the next fancy paint scheme rather than dealing with the disadvantages and consequences of using static numbers. (There was a screenshot on reddit and it looks like we're getting a grand total of 2 numbers per squadron for the F-4. But 200 different squadrons, of course) I don't mind rivet counting but what I do mind is ending up with just 4 numbers after 4 years of early access. (F-14) At this point I'd rather have "generic" dynamic numbers. HB's way of doing liveries is overambitioned and badly executed. 2 static numbers per squadron, not again, no thank you, hard pass.

The phantom will have dynamic modexes.

[Viper33]

On 1/23/2024 at 2:01 PM, RevampedGrunt said:

I'm doubting this will be possible. Similar to the F-14, there's a ton of different style of borts between the various countries and the way ED made them, you would struggle to make them work with how many different positions and styles the aircraft have for bort positions. 

For the German stuff you could easily use fallbacks and only have a different fuselage aft section that changes the number. Similar techniques can be used for others.

 

[Chaffee]

Hello. Here are several Keith Fretwell F-4 livery illustrations (and 1 photograph) from "The Encyclopedia of World Air Power," (1980), Hamlyn Aerospace, (which is an amazing Cold War snapshot generally).

Cheers

[Chaffee]

F-4E Thunderbirds no. 7, Pima Air & Space Museum. Excited 9-y-o for scale.

Aircraft provenance here: https://pimaair.org/museum-aircraft/mcdonnell-douglas-f-4e/

[ebabil]

Dear HB,

Since the plane is fully revealed, can you at least share the pictures all included liveries with the same angle?

[MiGCap1]

I would be glad to get just the plain vanilla "black nose" Luftwaffe F-4F scheme from the beginning of the 1990s ... (my pic).

 

 

[G.J.S]

7 hours ago, MiGCap1 said:

I would be glad to get just the plain vanilla "black nose" Luftwaffe F-4F scheme from the beginning of the 1990s ... (my pic).

 

 

A great image. I have seen a lot of your work before Stefan. You always take a good shot. 

[MiGCap1]

1 hour ago, G.J.S said:

A great image. I have seen a lot of your work before Stefan. You always take a good shot. 

Thank You very much!

One of my favourite pics is the vertical belly shot of the FGR.2 I did in 1989.

[SgtPappy]

14 hours ago, MiGCap1 said:

Thank You very much!

One of my favourite pics is the vertical belly shot of the FGR.2 I did in 1989.

By all means! Keep sharing!

For anyone who's on instagram (hopefully you don't mind, Dr. Petersen) here's the link: https://www.instagram.com/spetersen13/?hl=en

My fianceé and I are big fans of your photos of cats and planes (respectively)!

 

[MiGCap1]

3 hours ago, SgtPappy said:

By all means! Keep sharing!

For anyone who's on instagram (hopefully you don't mind, Dr. Petersen) here's the link: https://www.instagram.com/spetersen13/?hl=en

My fianceé and I are big fans of your photos of cats and planes (respectively)!

 

Thank You very much! 

 

I have to add new pics, I see. 

[Caldero]

My favourite pic from Mr. Petersen

(Yes, I'm spanish)

[Somu]

Hello.I want to ask to representatives of Heatblur that If ıt is ok for you please share some shots or a shot with Turkish Air Force F-4 Phantom livery from sim. Thank you. I preordered and waiting for release.

[Nodak]

Any way the flight suit can be made to select for orange and dark blue in addition to the sage green and sand?  Iran pre-revolutionary wore the orange, also Japan wore it, and it was issued to test squadrons and ADC units in the USAF, of which Iceland was one.  The dark blue was special issue to the Thunderbird team.