Help with SAM template

[Ebphoto]

Hello,

I’m hoping someone can help me with a couple of things I’m having issues with. The first is when I’m in the ME & select add static template under the Russian category I used to have multiple SAMs I could select from. I deleted one by accident & now none of them show up any more no matter what I do. Is there a way to get these back? I’d hate to have to reinstall everything.

Also, I’m not sure if this is related but in the instant action for any Navel aircraft, the ships are missing when I go into the actual mission to fly it. For instance in the CAT1 landing or even a take off instant action the plane will fall into the ocean because there’s no ship!

Last, when I select a vehicle in the mission editor it shows it on the map wherever I place it but then they won’t show up in the mission! I go out of the mission & back into the editor & they show up on the map again. No matter what I do I can’t get them to show in the actual mission. I’m so confused. The only MODs I have installed are the A4, Gripen & a couple of other aircraft MODs, not much else except aircraft liveries & some missions I’ve downloaded fm the DCS website. Also, I’ve tried the repair DCS program & it didn’t make a difference. This is on the Open beta latest released build.

Any help would be much appreciated. I’m really hoping I don’t have to reinstall since it takes forever to download all the theaters & aircraft etc. 

Thank you,

E

Edited March 2, 2022 by Ebphoto

[Rudel_chw]

41 minutes ago, Ebphoto said:

 The first is when I’m in the ME & select add static template under the Russian category I used to have multiple SAMs I could select from. I deleted one by accident & now none of them show up any more no matter what I do. Is there a way to get these back? I’d hate to have to reinstall everything.

 

Hi, here is how to restore the unit templates:

 

41 minutes ago, Ebphoto said:

Also, I’m not sure if this is related but in the instant action for any Navel aircraft, the ships are missing when I go into the actual mission to fly it. For instance in the CAT1 landing or even a take off instant action the plane will fall into the ocean because there’s no ship!

 

sorry, hard to guess at the cause .. maybe you could attach your dcs.log file to take a look.

 

41 minutes ago, Ebphoto said:

Last, when I select a vehicle in the mission editor it shows it on the map wherever I place it but then they won’t show up in the mission! I go out of the mission & back into the editor & they show up on the map again. No matter what I do I can’t get them to show in the actual mission. I’m so confused. The only MODs I have installed are the A4, Gripen & a couple of other aircraft MODs, not much else except aircraft liveries & some missions I’ve downloaded fm the DCS website.

 

you could try to disable the mods for a while, to be sure they are not the cause. Just rename the /saved games/dcs.openbeta/mods folder to mods.bak … that will disable them. Rename mods.bak to just mods, to restore them later.

 

41 minutes ago, Ebphoto said:

Also, I’ve tried the repair DCS program & it didn’t make a difference.

the dcs repair utility only examines the dcs program folder, it wont touch your saved games folder and thus can’t solve any issue that is caused by a typical user mod.

[Ebphoto]

Thank you. Ill have o do this today and hopefully it will solve the problems...

[Ebphoto]

Hey Thank you! So I did the LUA thing and it seemed to fix the items not showing up on the map in the ME or they show up in the SIM now. The only thing that seems a bit off is when I select the USA or Russia etc ALL the planes aren't showing up, even the purchased modules that I own like the F14 or Mirage etc/ Some do but others do not. Any Ideas? I also Disabled ALL the MODs I installed. I will put them back one at a time.

Thanks,

E

[Rudel_chw]

13 minutes ago, Ebphoto said:

the planes aren't showing up, even the purchased modules that I own like the F14 or Mirage etc/ Some do but others do not. Any Ideas? I also Disabled ALL the MODs I installed. I will put them back one at a time.

make sure that you dont have the historic filter enabled on the mission editor, as it will prevent units showing up if the mission date does not match their actual in-service years, for example the F-14 wont show up after 2006.

[Ebphoto]

Thank you! I didn't even know that button was down there!! Definitely fixed the issue!! 

Thank you

[AstonMartinDBS]

I have the same problem as the OP: I accidentally removed some of my templates by clicking on the "-" right next to the dropdown, but the hint from @Rudel_chw didn't work for me as expected.

Deleting/renaming the file templates.lua from {DCS installation path}\MissionEditor\data\scripts and running a repair restored the file, but the deleted templates are still missing:

I've tried this solution (deleting/ranaming the file template.lua from the directory %USERPROFILE%\Saved Games\DCS\MissionEditor\) also, but it didn't restore the deleted templates as well. I am still missing the templates for the FARP units for instance.

BTW: I'm running the current OB.

Edited April 10, 2022 by AstonMartinDBS

[Rudel_chw]

2 hours ago, AstonMartinDBS said:

but the hint from @Rudel_chw didn't work for me as expected.

Deleting/renaming the file templates.lua from {DCS installation path}\MissionEditor\data\scripts and running a repair restored the file, but the deleted templates are still missing:

 

Deleting the templates.lua from the DCS program file, following by a repair, does indeed restore the default templates .. BUT IT RESTORES THE CURRENT VERSION ... and the current version of the default Group Templates does not include FARPs (unfotunately).

Back in February the file contained 23 templates, but the current version (April) has almost double (40), but for some reason ED eliminated some of the old templates while adding the new ones .. the current file has these templates:

 

As a side note, even tough both are named Templates.lua; the file located at /Saved Games/ is not the same file as the one within the DCS program folder. It contains only those Group Templates created by yourself.

On the Mission Editor the templates apear on a unified listing, but your custom ones appear in grey, while ED's appear in light green, like this:

 

 

Edited April 10, 2022 by Rudel_chw

[AstonMartinDBS]

1 hour ago, Rudel_chw said:

Deleting the templates.lua from the DCS program file, following by a repair, does indeed restore the default templates .. BUT IT RESTORES THE CURRENT VERSION ... and the current version of the default Group Templates does not include FARPs (unfotunately).

Thanks for your clarification @Rudel_chw. It's very strange, that ED removed some of the templates, including the one for easy pupulating FARPs.

 

1 hour ago, Rudel_chw said:

As a side note, even tough both are named Templates.lua; the file located at /Saved Games/ is not the same file as the one within the DCS program folder. It contains only those Group Templates created by yourself.

On the Mission Editor the templates apear on a unified listing, but your custom ones appear in grey, while ED's appear in light green, like this:

That's what I already thought. Thank you!

I guess, you have a large collection of custom templates. Let me know if you wanna share it, please.

[Rudel_chw]

20 minutes ago, AstonMartinDBS said:

I guess, you have a large collection of custom templates. Let me know if you wanna share it, please.

 

I have a large collection of STATIC Templates, most of which I've already shared on the User Files section. But I actually do not use GROUP Templates much, because they have these disadvantages:

a) Group Templates can only consist of a single group of ground units. This means they can not contain ship or aircraft units, and they can not include static objects, both of which are huge limitations in my opinion.

b) Group Templates are actually a set of LUA statements within a single Templates.lua file. This means that they are very difficult to share with other users, unlike the Static Templates, where each template is contained on an individual file, easily shareable.

 

[AstonMartinDBS]

10 hours ago, Rudel_chw said:

But I actually do not use GROUP Templates much, because they have these disadvantages

Well, you're absolutely right. But static templates have at least one great disatvantage, too: they're map-bound. Maybe ED will find a way to combine the advantages of the group and static templates.

 

10 hours ago, Rudel_chw said:

I have a large collection of STATIC Templates, most of which I've already shared on the User Files section.

Thank you - I'll check them out! It wasn't easy to find your templates via filtering by user name due to your modified name in the user files section (Rudel-chw).

BTW: I'm already using your carrier templates since month, they're fantastic!

Edited April 11, 2022 by AstonMartinDBS

[Rudel_chw]

11 minutes ago, AstonMartinDBS said:

wasn't easy to find your templates via filtering by user name due to your modified name in the user files section (Rudel-chw).

Sorry about that, I have it this way so that if ever the passwords of this Forum are leaked or compromised, it won’t affect my Ed store account.