PatientMental76 Posted March 22, 2022 Posted March 22, 2022 I noticed when just cruising in auto mode at about half sweep & then if the wings are manually fully swept back without moving the throttle the plane slows down? Is this correct? I would have thought it has less drag & it should be easier to speed up & be able to throttle down a little bit while maintaining the same speed to save fuel! Anybody know why this is happening?
Hector45 Posted March 22, 2022 Posted March 22, 2022 Without changing speed but putting wings back you are reducing lift therefore the autopilot has to increase the AOA to maintain altitude which will cause you to slow down. At least this is how I understand it, someone correct me if I'm wrong. 2 Modules: F-14A/B | F-15C | F-16C | F/A-18C | SU-33 | Spitfire Mk IX | AH-64D | UH-1 | Super Carrier | Combined Arms | Persian Gulf | Syria | NTTR Setup: VKB Gunfighter Mk.III F-14 CE HOTAS | VKB S-TECS Modern Throttle | MFG Crosswind V3 | Custom switch panel | Tek Creations F14 Display Panel | Custom F14 Left Vertical Console | Custom IR Tracker | Custom butt kicker PC: i7 12700K | 64GB G-Skill DDR5 6000MHz | EVGA GeForce RTX 3080Ti FTW3 | DCS dedicated 2TB M.2 NVMe SSD | 3440x1440 144hz 34" ultrawide
TLTeo Posted March 22, 2022 Posted March 22, 2022 Yep, correct. The higher the wing sweep, the more AoA you need to generate a given amount of lift, especially at slow speeds. If you're going to keep flying level, increasing AoA will increase induced drag so if you don't compensate for it with power the aircraft will slow down. There's a reason why airlines don't have wings swept back 68 degrees
AndyJWest Posted March 22, 2022 Posted March 22, 2022 For any given set of conditions (weight, IAS, MACH etc) there will be an optimum sweep angle. It is the job of the auto control to match this as best it can. I'd be surprised if a human pilot could do significantly better.
draconus Posted March 23, 2022 Posted March 23, 2022 14 hours ago, PatientMental76 said: I would have thought it has less drag & it should be easier to speed up & be able to throttle down a little bit while maintaining the same speed to save fuel! What kind of speed? GS, TAS or IAS? To save fuel climb high around 32k ft, IAS around 230kts, you should be around 10 units AoA and leave wings on auto. Win10 i7-10700KF 32GB RTX4070S Quest 3 T16000M VPC CDT-VMAX TFRP FC3 F-14A/B F-15E CA SC NTTR PG Syria
r4y30n Posted March 24, 2022 Posted March 24, 2022 The purpose of the auto sweep schedule is to minimize total drag from the wings at all times. If you’re changing sweep away from the auto position you’re pretty much guaranteed to increase drag. That’s why you sweep them back before the break, to maximize drag for the turn. 1
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