speed-of-heat Posted September 9, 2024 Posted September 9, 2024 could you maybe describe the problem you are having ? SYSTEM SPECS: Hardware AMD 9800X3D, 64Gb RAM, 4090 FE, Virpil T50CM3 Throttle, WinWIng Orion 2 & F-16EX + MFG Crosswinds V2, Varjo Aero SOFTWARE: Microsoft Windows 11, VoiceAttack & VAICOM PRO YOUTUBE CHANNEL: @speed-of-heat
GPatricks Posted September 10, 2024 Posted September 10, 2024 (edited) You are using Varjo Foveated, not mbuccia's Quad-views, correct? I would also uninstall XRTK, I see it's disabled but (for me) I would eliminate it as a potential issue. Get the OpenXR Layers GUI app to see exactly what APIs are loading - https://github.com/fredemmott/OpenXR-API-Layers-GUI/releases/tag/v2024.09.09 Mine looks like this (order of them loading can make a difference also!) - Edited September 10, 2024 by GPatricks GIGABYTE X870E AORUS Elite WIFI7, Thermaltake 1200w PS \AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D - Corsair iCue Titan Liquid CPU cooler \ 64GB G.Skill Z5 DDR5 \ SBlasterX G6 \ 4TB NvMe M.2 Boot Drive \ Zotac GeForce RTX 4090 Trinity 24GB - Nvidia 576.66 drivers \ 3 Samsung LC32G53TQWUXEN 32" 7680x1440 at 144Hz Gsync \ Win11 Pro Ver. 24H2 - Build 26100.3915 \ TIR 5 \ Warthog HOTAS with VirPil stick base \ MFG V3 Pedals \ TM MFDs on 2 8" Lilliputs \ Simgears ICP \ Varjo XR-3 VR
Looking Glass Posted September 10, 2024 Posted September 10, 2024 A DCS re-installtion seems to have fixed it. Thanks for the prompt responses all
McLovin Posted October 1, 2024 Posted October 1, 2024 What's everyone doing now that quite a bit has changed with Quad Views, etc? I see mbuccia's post stating to not use his Varjo-Foveated (here: https://github.com/mbucchia/Varjo-Foveated/wiki) and instead use the new feature in the latest version of Varjo Base (post here: https://varjo.com/vr-lab/make-the-best-out-of-your-varjo-experience-update-on-varjo-quad-view-eye-tracked-foveation-and-varjo-base-settings/) with the manually added registry keys. The latest version of DCS now has Quadviews and eye tracking options in the settings as well.. so I'm wondering if anyone has experimented with what is the best way to use eye-tracked foveated rendering with the Aero with all of these recent changes?
motoadve Posted October 1, 2024 Posted October 1, 2024 6 minutes ago, McLovin said: What's everyone doing now that quite a bit has changed with Quad Views, etc? I see mbuccia's post stating to not use his Varjo-Foveated (here: https://github.com/mbucchia/Varjo-Foveated/wiki) and instead use the new feature in the latest version of Varjo Base (post here: https://varjo.com/vr-lab/make-the-best-out-of-your-varjo-experience-update-on-varjo-quad-view-eye-tracked-foveation-and-varjo-base-settings/) with the manually added registry keys. The latest version of DCS now has Quadviews and eye tracking options in the settings as well.. so I'm wondering if anyone has experimented with what is the best way to use eye-tracked foveated rendering with the Aero with all of these recent changes? Quadviews works in DCS, but Mbuccia DFR still gives you the best performance by a lot 10 to 15fps more in my case, and better visuals.
McLovin Posted October 1, 2024 Posted October 1, 2024 3 hours ago, motoadve said: Quadviews works in DCS, but Mbuccia DFR still gives you the best performance by a lot 10 to 15fps more in my case, and better visuals. So are you leaving the Quadviews and eye track settings off in DCS and still using the Varjo-Foveated plugin from mbucchia?
motoadve Posted October 1, 2024 Posted October 1, 2024 23 minutes ago, McLovin said: So are you leaving the Quadviews and eye track settings off in DCS and still using the Varjo-Foveated plugin from mbucchia? You need to check Quadviews ON in DCS for Mbuccia DFR to work
GPatricks Posted October 2, 2024 Posted October 2, 2024 (edited) 16 hours ago, McLovin said: What's everyone doing now that quite a bit has changed with Quad Views, etc? I see mbuccia's post stating to not use his Varjo-Foveated (here: https://github.com/mbucchia/Varjo-Foveated/wiki) and instead use the new feature in the latest version of Varjo Base (post here: https://varjo.com/vr-lab/make-the-best-out-of-your-varjo-experience-update-on-varjo-quad-view-eye-tracked-foveation-and-varjo-base-settings/) with the manually added registry keys. The latest version of DCS now has Quadviews and eye tracking options in the settings as well.. so I'm wondering if anyone has experimented with what is the best way to use eye-tracked foveated rendering with the Aero with all of these recent changes? General consensus from the Varjo Discord is to turn Quad-views ON, turn Eye Tracking OFF in DCS menu, and that Mbuccia's Varjo Foveated is still the best one (more options to tweak it).. Edited October 2, 2024 by GPatricks 1 GIGABYTE X870E AORUS Elite WIFI7, Thermaltake 1200w PS \AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D - Corsair iCue Titan Liquid CPU cooler \ 64GB G.Skill Z5 DDR5 \ SBlasterX G6 \ 4TB NvMe M.2 Boot Drive \ Zotac GeForce RTX 4090 Trinity 24GB - Nvidia 576.66 drivers \ 3 Samsung LC32G53TQWUXEN 32" 7680x1440 at 144Hz Gsync \ Win11 Pro Ver. 24H2 - Build 26100.3915 \ TIR 5 \ Warthog HOTAS with VirPil stick base \ MFG V3 Pedals \ TM MFDs on 2 8" Lilliputs \ Simgears ICP \ Varjo XR-3 VR
McLovin Posted October 2, 2024 Posted October 2, 2024 8 hours ago, GPatricks said: General consensus from the Varjo Discord is to turn Quad-views ON, turn Eye Tracking OFF in DCS menu, and that Mbuccia's Varjo Foveated is still the best one (more options to tweak it).. Cool, I'm doing that now (quad views on but dcs eye track setting off) but using the new Varjo reg key to force eye tracking and it seems to be working great. Performance seems a bit better than before the recent update. I had uninstalled mbucchias plug in because at first I was getting some strange behavior but I think it was because I had the eye tracking dcs option enabled. 1
Gunnars Driver Posted October 9, 2024 Posted October 9, 2024 Did a new install in the beginning of the year and havent used DCS since. But it's time! Is still the first post valid, like using How to: Varjo OpenXR Mode which worked very fine for me with foveated rendering etc ? Or do we have any other way to use the varjo today? [T.M HOTAS Warthog Stick & Throttle + T.Flight pedals, Varjo Aero, HP Reverb pro, Pimax 8KX] [DCS Mirage 2K; Huey; Spitfire Mk IX, AJS 37, F-14, F-18, FC3, A-10 Warthog II and a few more ] i9 13900KF@5.8/32Gb DDR5@6400/ Gigabyte Gaming OC RTX4090, ASUS STRIX Z790-F , 2Tb m2 NVMe
GPatricks Posted October 10, 2024 Posted October 10, 2024 (edited) 15 hours ago, Gunnars Driver said: Did a new install in the beginning of the year and havent used DCS since. But it's time! Is still the first post valid, like using How to: Varjo OpenXR Mode which worked very fine for me with foveated rendering etc ? Or do we have any other way to use the varjo today? No idea what the 1st post says but it's simpler than ever. There is no more beta, and both the exe's (\bin\dcs.exe and \bin-mt\dcs.exe) are identical now. DCS is native OpenXR, all you need to do is install either Mbuccia's Varjo Foveated or add the registry keys to run Varjo's native FR (I prefer Mbuccia's for its ability to be tweaked). Enable Quad views, DISABLE Eye Tracking (in DCS settings), and go.. Edited October 10, 2024 by GPatricks 1 GIGABYTE X870E AORUS Elite WIFI7, Thermaltake 1200w PS \AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D - Corsair iCue Titan Liquid CPU cooler \ 64GB G.Skill Z5 DDR5 \ SBlasterX G6 \ 4TB NvMe M.2 Boot Drive \ Zotac GeForce RTX 4090 Trinity 24GB - Nvidia 576.66 drivers \ 3 Samsung LC32G53TQWUXEN 32" 7680x1440 at 144Hz Gsync \ Win11 Pro Ver. 24H2 - Build 26100.3915 \ TIR 5 \ Warthog HOTAS with VirPil stick base \ MFG V3 Pedals \ TM MFDs on 2 8" Lilliputs \ Simgears ICP \ Varjo XR-3 VR
Gunnars Driver Posted October 10, 2024 Posted October 10, 2024 5 hours ago, GPatricks said: No idea what the 1st post says but it's simpler than ever. There is no more beta, and both the exe's (\bin\dcs.exe and \bin-mt\dcs.exe) are identical now. DCS is native OpenXR, all you need to do is install either Mbuccia's Varjo Foveated or add the registry keys to run Varjo's native FR (I prefer Mbuccia's for its ability to be tweaked). Enable Quad views, DISABLE Eye Tracking (in DCS settings), and go.. Thanks, good the get that verified (I did find info about that on the mbuccias page after writing the post). 1 [T.M HOTAS Warthog Stick & Throttle + T.Flight pedals, Varjo Aero, HP Reverb pro, Pimax 8KX] [DCS Mirage 2K; Huey; Spitfire Mk IX, AJS 37, F-14, F-18, FC3, A-10 Warthog II and a few more ] i9 13900KF@5.8/32Gb DDR5@6400/ Gigabyte Gaming OC RTX4090, ASUS STRIX Z790-F , 2Tb m2 NVMe
GPatricks Posted October 11, 2024 Posted October 11, 2024 (edited) 15 hours ago, Gunnars Driver said: Thanks, good the get that verified (I did find info about that on the mbuccias page after writing the post). Remember, you tweak the Mbuccia Varjo FR via the settings.cfg file in "C:\Program Files\OpenXR-Varjo-Foveated" .. mine is below. peripheral_multiplier=1 ----- (this can be reduced to .8 to increase FR) focus_multiplier=1.6 ----- (this is normally set ~1.4 for good visuals) horizontal_focus_scale=1 -- ( I leave alone) vertical_focus_scale=1 ---- ( I leave alone) turbo_mode=1 ------------ ( I leave alone, you want Turbo ON) no_eye_tracking=0 ------- ( I leave alone, =setting to 1 kills eye tracking) Edited October 11, 2024 by GPatricks GIGABYTE X870E AORUS Elite WIFI7, Thermaltake 1200w PS \AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D - Corsair iCue Titan Liquid CPU cooler \ 64GB G.Skill Z5 DDR5 \ SBlasterX G6 \ 4TB NvMe M.2 Boot Drive \ Zotac GeForce RTX 4090 Trinity 24GB - Nvidia 576.66 drivers \ 3 Samsung LC32G53TQWUXEN 32" 7680x1440 at 144Hz Gsync \ Win11 Pro Ver. 24H2 - Build 26100.3915 \ TIR 5 \ Warthog HOTAS with VirPil stick base \ MFG V3 Pedals \ TM MFDs on 2 8" Lilliputs \ Simgears ICP \ Varjo XR-3 VR
Gunnars Driver Posted October 11, 2024 Posted October 11, 2024 11 hours ago, GPatricks said: Remember, you tweak the Mbuccia Varjo FR via the settings.cfg file in "C:\Program Files\OpenXR-Varjo-Foveated" .. mine is below. peripheral_multiplier=1 ----- (this can be reduced to .8 to increase FR) focus_multiplier=1.6 ----- (this is normally set ~1.4 for good visuals) horizontal_focus_scale=1 -- ( I leave alone) vertical_focus_scale=1 ---- ( I leave alone) turbo_mode=1 ------------ ( I leave alone, you want Turbo ON) no_eye_tracking=0 ------- ( I leave alone, =setting to 1 kills eye tracking) Thanks! Much appreciated I had a very nice setup with mbuccia and multithreading before the reinstall (W11 would not upgrade for some reason so I had to perform a clean install). I had 90fps constant with MT and Mbuccias so I’ll try to get back to that convinient setup [T.M HOTAS Warthog Stick & Throttle + T.Flight pedals, Varjo Aero, HP Reverb pro, Pimax 8KX] [DCS Mirage 2K; Huey; Spitfire Mk IX, AJS 37, F-14, F-18, FC3, A-10 Warthog II and a few more ] i9 13900KF@5.8/32Gb DDR5@6400/ Gigabyte Gaming OC RTX4090, ASUS STRIX Z790-F , 2Tb m2 NVMe
Recommended Posts