fixed high AoA roll when going less than 300kias

[TobiasA]

vor 5 Stunden schrieb stefasaki:

That is an asymmetric loading test conducted at high altitude. Shouldn’t happen with a clean aircraft and low altitude, as it’s now the case in DCS. It’s a typical airshow maneuver, which never resulted in a deep stall to my knowledge 

Can someone of you provide a track? I tried loaded barrel rolls with asymmetrical loadout in high altitude, but I can never get into a deep stall. The nose comes around a bit and then I let go of a the stick and it settles itself.

I am genuinely interested in how you depart. Don't get me wrong, I believe you but apparently I am doing it wrong.

[Maverick_NL0701]

Dear,

 

In the most recent update, a flight model adjustment was made to the excessive yaw in landing configuration.

This indeed seems to have been fully fixed. thank you.

However I have noticed that after liftoff, after the gear is raised, there still seems to be some excessive yaw with roll inputs.

I have tested with landing gear down too after liftoff and the yaw seems to be less severe.

In the added trackfile I have tried to demonstrate my findings, I agree that the roll inputs are excessive but it was to demonstrate the yaw effect with roll.

After passing roughly 300 kts the excessive yaw input seems to fade away and returns to a more normal correction.

Kindly advise.

 

With kind regards,

Maurits Robert van Gelder

F16C Take-off Yaw.trk

[AlexCaboose]

18 hours ago, TobiasA said:

Can someone of you provide a track? I tried loaded barrel rolls with asymmetrical loadout in high altitude, but I can never get into a deep stall. The nose comes around a bit and then I let go of a the stick and it settles itself.

I am genuinely interested in how you depart. Don't get me wrong, I believe you but apparently I am doing it wrong.

Sure, I can get you one later today. But you don't need to be at high alt or even asymmetric. The way I've departed it (and same with the IRL Viper driver) has been doing a tuck under jink. We've both managed to depart it multiple times, and a few of them have been unrecoverable with plenty of altitude above the floor. 

To do a tuck under jink: Idle/SB. Pull full aft stick to the limiter to get the nose up a bit, loaded roll, and then unload passing through 90°. Load it back up once oriented to the opposite horizon and assess.

[TobiasA]

vor 5 Stunden schrieb AlexCaboose:

Sure, I can get you one later today. But you don't need to be at high alt or even asymmetric. The way I've departed it (and same with the IRL Viper driver) has been doing a tuck under jink. We've both managed to depart it multiple times, and a few of them have been unrecoverable with plenty of altitude above the floor. 

To do a tuck under jink: Idle/SB. Pull full aft stick to the limiter to get the nose up a bit, loaded roll, and then unload passing through 90°. Load it back up once oriented to the opposite horizon and assess.

I will try. I think it'll be possible with that description, no need for a track.

Thanks! 

[Blackhawk163]

15 hours ago, Maverick_NL0701 said:

Dear,

 

In the most recent update, a flight model adjustment was made to the excessive yaw in landing configuration.

This indeed seems to have been fully fixed. thank you.

However I have noticed that after liftoff, after the gear is raised, there still seems to be some excessive yaw with roll inputs.

I have tested with landing gear down too after liftoff and the yaw seems to be less severe.

In the added trackfile I have tried to demonstrate my findings, I agree that the roll inputs are excessive but it was to demonstrate the yaw effect with roll.

After passing roughly 300 kts the excessive yaw input seems to fade away and returns to a more normal correction.

Kindly advise.

 

With kind regards,

Maurits Robert van Gelder

F16C Take-off Yaw.trk 5.73 MB · 5 downloads

THANK YOU! I was going nuts thinking what the heck is going on, don't know if this is a product of some crosswinds in the KOLA campaign, but some of my T/O and landings have been a bit spicy at times.

[DummyCatz]

I can see there're two bugs that were merged together.

OP was talking about the susceptibility to a departure and subsequent deep stall, and is related to the recent bug fix of:

• Fixed: Impossible to enter a deep stall.

While the other bug was about excessive yaw induced by roll that was related to the recent bug fix of:

• Fixed: Excessive YAW With Roll Inputs in Landing Config.

Just make sure both are taken care of.