AAR difficulty somehow increased since the C model (?)

[Razor18]

Hi Gents,

with the old Hawg (C) I never had any problem with AAR since it came out originally around 2010-ish. (I know, anybody can say that... )

In the meantime I flew some other DCS types (with AAR) until Tank Killer came out, bought it recently, and now I couldn't hook up for the life of me.

What I realized that the trim reaction/sensitivity is MUCH bigger/faster, whcih doesn't help to really fine tune the sweet spot. Another apparent change is the tanker boom is much slower in trying to plug in, it really just creeps around the receptacle.  Apart from these, did anything else changed in the Tank Killer?

ALspo, the tanker never flys straight and level. It looks like it is always trying to intercept some course/heading but always overshooting then correcting the other direction back and forth. Very shallow, bank, but definitely turning all the time.

Anyone else?

THX

[Yurgon]

I can't say that I noticed any difference in the flight model at all between the 2 A-10C modules. I also didn't notice any difference in trim behavior. Every now and then I hop into the old A-10C and it never feels any different compared to the A-10C II that I fly most of the time nowadays.

Same for AAR, can't say that I noticed any difference in tanker or boom behavior. The guys I fly with also never mentioned anything in this regard.

On 7/4/2022 at 8:35 AM, Razor18 said:

ALspo, the tanker never flys straight and level.

In strong crosswinds, tankers sometimes do odd things to stay on track; check the CDU for winds at the tanker altitude. A TacView track can also reveal what the tanker does.

When the wind is not very pronounced, tankers fly perfectly straight legs for me.

Long story short, if there's such a difference between the modules, I must have subconsciously adopted, but I'd have thought that after several hundred hours I should have noticed.

Are you sure your input config and profiles are exactly the same for both modules?

[Razor18]

YUp, no curves or any modification in any control axis...

[Yurgon]

I guess a test case could be this:

Record a track in the A-10C and take note of headings, altitudes and attitudes. Make sure the track plays back 100 % okay.

Rename the .trk to .miz, swap the A-10C for an A-10C II in the mission editor, rename the track back to .trk and see if it plays any differently now.

[sze5003]

The only thing I noticed with the AAR in that mission was that the tanker constantly turned so I just had to keep trying to plug in while he was in the turn. After several attempts and many hours I did fill up completely but I did start the mission in the air from part 2 so I didn't have to do the first part of the mission each time.

I actually had an easier time staying connected in the turn rather than when he was flying straight because by the time I was set up properly, speed wise and trim, and inching forward, I noticed the boom operator danced around with the boom too much and before I knew it he was going into a turn again.

So yea I think the boom operator was a bit less stable than the last time I tried in like 2019 or so.

[Razor18]

Thanks, I thought it was just me...