Is there a way to do that thing where a SAM is fired first, without guidance, then turned on midflight.

[WelshZeCorgi]

That interesting thing that I think a Bosnian SAM commander did where he fired a SAM in the general direction of a target, without radar, before turning it on midway through the flight, locked up a target? 

 

Is that possible to replicate without any "cheating"? Like the SAM battery actually does this? 

Edited July 12, 2022 by WelshZeCorgi

[Gierasimov]

It is not natively possible in game - through Mission Editor. Maybe with some magic scripting you can spike the target, then fire, then illuminate again. I doubt it though. 

[Pikey]

no the SSE doesnt enable us to have LOAL, the reaction time is set by the skill level and thats our lot. RWR's are way too accurate and sensitive for them to miss anything and when I tried to shut off a sam after launch it refused for the duration of flight. You can get very good results with the SAM waiting until the target is well passed the NEZ, that's somewhat frightening.

If you want blind panic just fly low in a Tunguskas engagement zone.

[Hobel]

vor 6 Stunden schrieb WelshZeCorgi:

That interesting thing that I think a Bosnian SAM commander did where he fired a SAM in the general direction of a target, without radar, before turning it on midway through the flight, locked up a target? 

 

Is that possible to replicate without any "cheating"? Like the SAM battery actually does this? 

 

That would be a wonderful and important thing for DCS!

in reality, the practice seems to be applied more often, even with old systems like the SA2.

[Gierasimov]

9 hours ago, Pikey said:

If you want blind panic just fly low in a Tunguskas engagement zone.

That's gonna be rather short flight...

[Pikey]

The way I'd see these things coming is if a thrid party committed to doing something with IADS like was metnioned as then it would get commercial support and we might see more features to SAMs. I'd also like to see a "SAM Simulator" in DCS. I don't think these would garner much interest from a wider audience and there are other issues, but its still a good wishlist item.

 

[Gierasimov]

54 minutes ago, Pikey said:

The way I'd see these things coming is if a thrid party committed to doing something with IADS like was metnioned as then it would get commercial support and we might see more features to SAMs. I'd also like to see a "SAM Simulator" in DCS. I don't think these would garner much interest from a wider audience and there are other issues, but its still a good wishlist item.

 

Indeed it is, both the "issue" and good wishlist item. That third party that was doing sort of community interest research backed out of the idea for what I gathered and looking and Chizh's comments looks like ED intends to keep SAM AI where it is for the considerable future. 

[Pikey]

2 minutes ago, Gierasimov said:

Indeed it is, both the "issue" and good wishlist item. That third party that was doing sort of community interest research backed out of the idea for what I gathered and looking and Chizh's comments looks like ED intends to keep SAM AI where it is for the considerable future. 

Ah boo
Not sure I can think of a way to make this more appealing to ED. My only thought is a mod that would take some of the properties of saclos launchers. Even then, pretty doubtful.