LastRifleRound Posted August 22, 2022 Posted August 22, 2022 Is there a way to set VIP/VRP/OAP1/OAP2 in the mission editor? The resolution of the ME ruler is only in full degrees, and the resolution of the input in the jet for distance is in tenths of a mile. In the M2000C you can set these in the ME to act as an upload from the DTC and you can get more exact positioning.
Ignition Posted August 22, 2022 Posted August 22, 2022 It would be nice to have more precise ruler units in F10. I don't know in real life in real time how they manage this, but I guess a FAC would give really precise parameters.
AvroLanc Posted August 22, 2022 Posted August 22, 2022 3 hours ago, Ignition said: It would be nice to have more precise ruler units in F10. I don't know in real life in real time how they manage this, but I guess a FAC would give really precise parameters. Offsets generally aren’t used for CAS in the way you mean, but in real life they would have proper planning software to very precisely plot the offset for radar offset bombing. The offset range function should have a ‘feet’ option, but ED haven’t modelled it. Offsets are completely broken in the current OB anyway. 1 2
LastRifleRound Posted August 22, 2022 Author Posted August 22, 2022 7 hours ago, AvroLanc said: Offsets generally aren’t used for CAS in the way you mean, but in real life they would have proper planning software to very precisely plot the offset for radar offset bombing. The offset range function should have a ‘feet’ option, but ED haven’t modelled it. Offsets are completely broken in the current OB anyway. You're right Avro, OAP logic is not correct. I was doing some test runs with VIP enabled, and while the logic was correct (slewing causes IP and TGT to move equally) the issue was how imprecise setting it up in the first place was. This definitely ought to be something that can be configured in the ME as RAZBAM has done. Same with the Hornet.
Frederf Posted August 22, 2022 Posted August 22, 2022 If you want precision use the XZ grid which is meters (tenths of meters?) and do trig on it. That's how I did Mirage bombing forever. I know they have added a new feature to Mirage to auto-input the PI data. With F-16 it's more complicated since it has both OAP and IP/RP offset so Mirage solution doesn't do everything. To really get all three values from editor would need some kind of custom solution. Steerpoints can also be designated "TGT" in the mission planning software (not cockpit except VIP/VRP) with "IP" being the one before "TGT" which changes their symbols from circles to triangle/square respectively. I guess that could just be based on the waypoint name field.
AvroLanc Posted August 22, 2022 Posted August 22, 2022 (edited) 53 minutes ago, LastRifleRound said: You're right Avro, OAP logic is not correct. I was doing some test runs with VIP enabled, and while the logic was correct (slewing causes IP and TGT to move equally) the issue was how imprecise setting it up in the first place was. This definitely ought to be something that can be configured in the ME as RAZBAM has done. Same with the Hornet. Yeah, the VIP/VRP functions are working much better than the OAPs. I was pleasantly surprised, but the precision problem remains. OAs have never worked correctly in the Viper, and at the moment they use completely the wrong logic. Slewing actually changes the preset offset range and bearing data rather than the TGT location, which is insane. ED doesn’t seem to want use the already existing ME functions for any of this. Offsets, Pre -planned threats, JDAM targets, HARM targets could all be set in the way that Heatblur and Razbam use. Instead we wait for a DTC function that is pretty much never going to happen anytime soon. Edited August 22, 2022 by AvroLanc
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