Random crash to desktop after respawning in the air during multiplayer in VR

[crazyave]

After crashing/ejecting from an aircraft in a multiplayer game I try to respawn to an aircraft in the air and randomly after clicking "Fly" the screen goes black with lots of wind noises and DCS dies shortly thereafter, sometimes SteamVR crashes too, but only rarely.  Sometimes the screen comes back and it's as if the pilot is swinging wildly all over the sky outside the plane and then snaps back into it.

No crashes in single player at all, even on the same mission. 

Multiplayer hosted directly or dedicated server, same result.

I've had the issue for some time but seems to be getting worse after latest releases.  Happens more than 50% of the time now.

EventViewer screenshot and logs attached. 

On latest OB

Full clean/repair done, no mods

All Drivers updated

8700k

32GB RAM

RTX3090

Win10 Pro, super clean with not much else running.

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dcs.log-20220824-152546.zip

Edited August 25, 2022 by crazyave

[Flappie]

Hi. You're having the common DXGI_ERROR_ DEVICE_REMOVED crash. This message simply says the sim could not use the GPU because it was not listening to it anymore.

I see your Windows is not up-to-date. You should first update it, then report back here.

[crazyave]

My windows update shows as up to date, what is saying it's not?

I searched a lot about this GPU error and it comes up in a lot of places and is often caused by software not hardware issues.  

[Flappie]

Your DCS log says 19043. The latest W10;update version is 19044.

You're right, I must be wrong. Good luck with your issue.

[crazyave]

Yea, weird, I didn't get prompted for 21H2 for some reason.  I'm installing it.  My friend with the same issue has 21H2 so I'm not sure this will help, but I do want to be on the latest always.

Sorry, not a personal attack on your suggestion, thanks for the input, really!

The reasons I believe it is a software problem are:

-I can reproduce it on the fly by doing a very specific action in the game, and it's clear there is an issue in the game when sometimes it does recover strangely.

-My friend I fly with has the exact same problem with a totally different computer system.

-I don't get this error or crash in any other game/program

-I don't get the error in single player on the same exact mission.

I'm happy to be proven wrong, just give me the steps to try... 

[Flappie]

Apologies accepted.

I've been helping users of this forum on a nearly daily basis, for more than two years now.

Here are threads of users who had the same error message in their log:

https://forums.eagle.ru/topic/275606-random-crashes/?tab=comments#comment-4712246

https://forums.eagle.ru/topic/275606-random-crashes/#comments

https://forums.eagle.ru/topic/284188-game-freezing-then-crashes

https://forums.eagle.ru/topic/289208-27-crashing/

https://forums.eagle.ru/topic/283808-ob-game-crash/

https://forum.dcs.world/topic/297011-crash-to-desktop/#comment-4950068

https://forum.dcs.world/topic/302201-persistent-crashes-following-gpu-upgrade/#comment-4985192

Have a look and see how they got rid of their issue.

[crazyave]

Thanks Flappie, yep, I read all those earlier, seems like everyone had a different resolution, not much definitive about an exact cause or solution I could follow.

I did some logical tshooting with my buddy and we may have found the problem, but I want to test for another week to make sure.

We were big fans of trying to use Voice Chat and have been working really hard to do what we can to make it work and stable, the last update killed it 100% though, and also my issue here at the same time became totally intolerable, crashing 9/10 times trying to respawn.  I don't know why I didn't see the two being related, because the VC window was totally hanging randomly.  Today we moved to using Discord instead and disabled VC and I just played for a few hours without a single crash.  I will continue to test a bit longer before I'm sure about it though.

[Flappie]

Roger. Waiting for your feedback.

[Uchoslap]

Any update? My friend is having the same issue, we have played mission with cold start on ground - nothing hapens. When we play mission with mid air start and he dies - game crashes 10/10 times.

Edited November 28, 2023 by Uchoslap

[Flappie]

@Uchoslap Hi, please open a new thread and attach the latest zip file(s) from your friend's Saved Games/DCS.../Logs folder. Don't forget to ping me with an @.