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Okay, so I'm sorry I'm posting this here because for some reason I'm not allowed to post things in Crashes? So if a mod sees this can you change the topic location as I'm unable to 

So for some reason when I press on these buttons the game freezes and then crashes like that, wait for the program to respond does nothing, i tried the fix that said change mission editor name in saved games and didn't work, deleted all mission editor files and validated the game again didn't work, i tried what I could and I couldn't get it fixed

It's really frustrating so if anyone can help me with it I'd appreciate it 

it used to work normally before 

https://usaupload.com/6JeF/dcs_crash.JPG

this link leads to the image as I can't insert image from URL

eafaviation

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8 minutes ago, Flappie said:

Do you see the same glitches before it crashes?

 

I don't think so, I press create new mission and add a plane (not a mod plane just to clarify, one of the default ones, i also tried different planes and got same results) then I add the plane, press on these buttons to change load out and stuff and the game freezes then CTDs

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Thank you. The payload button activates 3D mode (aircraft previzualisation), which causes your PC to crash on 'DXGI_ERROR_DEVICE_REMOVED' error message: 

2022-09-07 08:19:50.523 ERROR   DX11BACKEND: DX device removed. Reason: 0x887A0006
2022-09-07 08:19:50.666 WARNING LOG: 23 duplicate message(s) skipped.
2022-09-07 08:19:50.666 ERROR   DX11BACKEND: failed to create structed buffer. Reason: DXGI_ERROR_DEVICE_REMOVED
2022-09-07 08:19:50.666 ERROR   DX11BACKEND: CreateShaderResourceView FAILED. Reason: E_INVALIDARG
2022-09-07 08:19:50.672 INFO    EDCORE: try to write dump information
2022-09-07 08:19:50.675 INFO    EDCORE: # -------------- 20220907-081951 --------------
2022-09-07 08:19:50.676 INFO    EDCORE: DCS/2.7.16.28157 (x86_64; Windows NT 10.0.19044)
2022-09-07 08:19:50.678 INFO    EDCORE: C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\d3d11.dll
2022-09-07 08:19:50.679 INFO    EDCORE: # C0000005 ACCESS_VIOLATION at EF1298C0 00:00000000
2022-09-07 08:19:50.710 INFO    EDCORE: SymInit: Symbol-SearchPath: '.;E:\SteamLibrary\steamapps\common\DCSWorld;E:\SteamLibrary\steamapps\common\DCSWorld\bin;C:\WINDOWS;C:\WINDOWS\system32;SRV*C:\websymbols*https://msdl.microsoft.com/download/symbols;', symOptions: 528, UserName: 'U.S.E.R'
2022-09-07 08:19:50.712 INFO    EDCORE: OS-Version: 10.0.19044 () 0x100-0x1
2022-09-07 08:19:52.204 INFO    EDCORE: 0x00000000001298C0 (d3d11): CreateDirect3D11SurfaceFromDXGISurface + 0xFF40
2022-09-07 08:19:52.205 INFO    EDCORE: 0x000000000002FBA1 (dx11backend): createRenderer + 0x18381
2022-09-07 08:19:52.205 INFO    EDCORE: 0x000000000007AEC7 (edterrainGraphics41): edtg41::TerrainRenderable::dumpRenderItem + 0x6A007
2022-09-07 08:19:52.205 INFO    EDCORE: 0x00000000000D0302 (edterrainGraphics41): createInstancerRenderable + 0x37322
2022-09-07 08:19:52.205 INFO    EDCORE: 0x00000000000CBDA8 (edterrainGraphics41): createInstancerRenderable + 0x32DC8
2022-09-07 08:19:52.206 INFO    EDCORE: 0x00000000000CD020 (edterrainGraphics41): createInstancerRenderable + 0x34040
2022-09-07 08:19:52.206 INFO    EDCORE: 0x00000000000D8758 (edCore): ed::this_thread::yield + 0x4D8
2022-09-07 08:19:52.206 INFO    EDCORE: 0x00000000000CF65A (edCore): ed::make_render_thread_tasks + 0x1A
2022-09-07 08:19:52.206 INFO    EDCORE: 0x0000000000856930 (DCS): SW + 0x530AF0
2022-09-07 08:19:52.206 INFO    EDCORE: 0x00000000008276C4 (DCS): SW + 0x501884
2022-09-07 08:19:52.206 INFO    EDCORE: 0x0000000000827A9D (DCS): SW + 0x501C5D
2022-09-07 08:19:52.207 INFO    EDCORE: 0x0000000001D3F5D5 (DCS): AmdPowerXpressRequestHighPerformance + 0xECE5D1
2022-09-07 08:19:52.207 INFO    EDCORE: 0x0000000000A7150E (DCS): SW + 0x74B6CE
2022-09-07 08:19:52.207 INFO    EDCORE: 0x0000000000017034 (KERNEL32): BaseThreadInitThunk + 0x14
2022-09-07 08:19:52.207 INFO    EDCORE: 0x0000000000052651 (ntdll): RtlUserThreadStart + 0x21
2022-09-07 08:19:54.307 INFO    EDCORE: Minidump created.

 

Your W10 is up-to-date, your graphics driver is recent, you don't seem to have any mod installed. But you have a very small pagefile (3 GB): 

2022-09-07 07:57:19.178 INFO    APP: CPU cores: 6, threads: 12, System RAM: 16334 MB, Pagefile: 3519 MB

This could be the issue. How much free space do you have left in all your drives?

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eafaviation

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2 minutes ago, Flappie said:

Thank you. The payload button activates 3D mode (aircraft previzualisation), which causes your PC to crash on 'DXGI_ERROR_DEVICE_REMOVED' error message: 

2022-09-07 08:19:50.523 ERROR   DX11BACKEND: DX device removed. Reason: 0x887A0006
2022-09-07 08:19:50.666 WARNING LOG: 23 duplicate message(s) skipped.
2022-09-07 08:19:50.666 ERROR   DX11BACKEND: failed to create structed buffer. Reason: DXGI_ERROR_DEVICE_REMOVED
2022-09-07 08:19:50.666 ERROR   DX11BACKEND: CreateShaderResourceView FAILED. Reason: E_INVALIDARG
2022-09-07 08:19:50.672 INFO    EDCORE: try to write dump information
2022-09-07 08:19:50.675 INFO    EDCORE: # -------------- 20220907-081951 --------------
2022-09-07 08:19:50.676 INFO    EDCORE: DCS/2.7.16.28157 (x86_64; Windows NT 10.0.19044)
2022-09-07 08:19:50.678 INFO    EDCORE: C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\d3d11.dll
2022-09-07 08:19:50.679 INFO    EDCORE: # C0000005 ACCESS_VIOLATION at EF1298C0 00:00000000
2022-09-07 08:19:50.710 INFO    EDCORE: SymInit: Symbol-SearchPath: '.;E:\SteamLibrary\steamapps\common\DCSWorld;E:\SteamLibrary\steamapps\common\DCSWorld\bin;C:\WINDOWS;C:\WINDOWS\system32;SRV*C:\websymbols*https://msdl.microsoft.com/download/symbols;', symOptions: 528, UserName: 'U.S.E.R'
2022-09-07 08:19:50.712 INFO    EDCORE: OS-Version: 10.0.19044 () 0x100-0x1
2022-09-07 08:19:52.204 INFO    EDCORE: 0x00000000001298C0 (d3d11): CreateDirect3D11SurfaceFromDXGISurface + 0xFF40
2022-09-07 08:19:52.205 INFO    EDCORE: 0x000000000002FBA1 (dx11backend): createRenderer + 0x18381
2022-09-07 08:19:52.205 INFO    EDCORE: 0x000000000007AEC7 (edterrainGraphics41): edtg41::TerrainRenderable::dumpRenderItem + 0x6A007
2022-09-07 08:19:52.205 INFO    EDCORE: 0x00000000000D0302 (edterrainGraphics41): createInstancerRenderable + 0x37322
2022-09-07 08:19:52.205 INFO    EDCORE: 0x00000000000CBDA8 (edterrainGraphics41): createInstancerRenderable + 0x32DC8
2022-09-07 08:19:52.206 INFO    EDCORE: 0x00000000000CD020 (edterrainGraphics41): createInstancerRenderable + 0x34040
2022-09-07 08:19:52.206 INFO    EDCORE: 0x00000000000D8758 (edCore): ed::this_thread::yield + 0x4D8
2022-09-07 08:19:52.206 INFO    EDCORE: 0x00000000000CF65A (edCore): ed::make_render_thread_tasks + 0x1A
2022-09-07 08:19:52.206 INFO    EDCORE: 0x0000000000856930 (DCS): SW + 0x530AF0
2022-09-07 08:19:52.206 INFO    EDCORE: 0x00000000008276C4 (DCS): SW + 0x501884
2022-09-07 08:19:52.206 INFO    EDCORE: 0x0000000000827A9D (DCS): SW + 0x501C5D
2022-09-07 08:19:52.207 INFO    EDCORE: 0x0000000001D3F5D5 (DCS): AmdPowerXpressRequestHighPerformance + 0xECE5D1
2022-09-07 08:19:52.207 INFO    EDCORE: 0x0000000000A7150E (DCS): SW + 0x74B6CE
2022-09-07 08:19:52.207 INFO    EDCORE: 0x0000000000017034 (KERNEL32): BaseThreadInitThunk + 0x14
2022-09-07 08:19:52.207 INFO    EDCORE: 0x0000000000052651 (ntdll): RtlUserThreadStart + 0x21
2022-09-07 08:19:54.307 INFO    EDCORE: Minidump created.

 

Your W10 is up-to-date, your graphics driver is recent, you don't seem to have any mod installed. But you have a very small pagefile (3 GB): 

2022-09-07 07:57:19.178 INFO    APP: CPU cores: 6, threads: 12, System RAM: 16334 MB, Pagefile: 3519 MB

This could be the issue. How much free space do you have left in all your drives?

I had dcs on an hdd with 120gb left, and this issue occured, I didnt care as i cared more about moving it to an ssd, so i freed the ssd and moved dcs there, the ssd has like 30gb left but this issue happened before I moved it

my other drives dont have much space left around 10 percent

but all dcs files are in the main ssd so i think it has nothing to do with it

1 minute ago, eafaviation said:

I had dcs on an hdd with 120gb left, and this issue occured, I didnt care as i cared more about moving it to an ssd, so i freed the ssd and moved dcs there, the ssd has like 30gb left but this issue happened before I moved it

my other drives dont have much space left around 10 percent

but all dcs files are in the main ssd so i think it has nothing to do with it

oops the hdd i freed has 140gb left actually, the other one has 11 percent left

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1 minute ago, eafaviation said:

but all dcs files are in the main ssd so i think it has nothing to do with it

The pagefile could be stored on a different drive, it wouldn't change anything. You should try using a bigger pagefile. You simply need to ensure the pagefile is stored on a fast drive with sufficient enough free space.

Run this command through the 'cmd' window and paste the result here, please: 

wmic pagefile list /format:list

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2 minutes ago, Flappie said:

The pagefile could be stored on a different drive, it wouldn't change anything. You should try using a bigger pagefile. You simply need to ensure the pagefile is stored on a fast drive with sufficient enough free space.

Run this command through the 'cmd' window and paste the result here, please: 

wmic pagefile list /format:list

AllocatedBaseSize=1024
CurrentUsage=178
Description=C:\pagefile.sys
InstallDate=20220114230906.878156+120
Name=C:\pagefile.sys
PeakUsage=514
Status=
TempPageFile=FALSE


C:\Users\

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3 minutes ago, Flappie said:

Thanks. Your pagefile is currently stored on your C:/ drive. Ensure your C:/ drive has at least 40 GB of free space. If it has not, move your pagefile to a different drive (unless other drives are way too slow).

Set both initial and max pagefile size to 16384 (16GB).

https://mcci.com/support/guides/how-to-change-the-windows-pagefile-size/

is it now on E drive https://gofile.io/d/LEdJPY ?

its not slow it used to work fine on this drive

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One pagefile is enough. Click on the "C:/" line, tick "No paging file", then click Set.

Then reboot and try again to use the mission editor. If it keeps crashing, please attach the latest zip file again.

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6 minutes ago, Flappie said:

One pagefile is enough. Click on the "C:/" line, tick "No paging file", then click Set.

Then reboot and try again to use the mission editor. If it keeps crashing, please attach the latest zip file again.

sadly it didnt get fixed, same thing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Tb8CDilB7dHTYnRyIbvI1Cc6b7O0yu8l/view?usp=sharing

heres the zip

and the cmd thing just incase
AllocatedBaseSize=16384
CurrentUsage=0
Description=E:\pagefile.sys
InstallDate=20220910010143.169255+120
Name=E:\pagefile.sys
PeakUsage=1
Status=
TempPageFile=FALSE

7 minutes ago, Flappie said:

One pagefile is enough. Click on the "C:/" line, tick "No paging file", then click Set.

Then reboot and try again to use the mission editor. If it keeps crashing, please attach the latest zip file again.

what confuses me is that it used to work finely before 😐

Flappie

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This is often the case: things work, then they don't. Sometimes it happens right after an update, but some othertimes it's not that obvious.

Your attachment is the same than before. Please attach the dcs.log file, then.

In the meantime, try this:

  1. Browse to "Saved Games" folder.
  2. Rename your "DCS" folder into "DCS.backup".
  3. Run DCS and try to use the mission editor. Does it crash this time?

 

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5 minutes ago, Flappie said:

This is often the case: things work, then they don't. Sometimes it happens right after an update, but some othertimes it's not that obvious.

Your attachment is the same than before. Please attach the dcs.log file, then.

In the meantime, try this:

  1. Browse to "Saved Games" folder.
  2. Rename your "DCS" folder into "DCS.backup".
  3. Run DCS and try to use the mission editor. Does it crash this time?

 

Thanks, I will try

this is the log 

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1rCTsyphxyingCAnD4bLBT4alelcpJr9M/view?usp=sharing

9 minutes ago, Flappie said:

This is often the case: things work, then they don't. Sometimes it happens right after an update, but some othertimes it's not that obvious.

Your attachment is the same than before. Please attach the dcs.log file, then.

In the meantime, try this:

  1. Browse to "Saved Games" folder.
  2. Rename your "DCS" folder into "DCS.backup".
  3. Run DCS and try to use the mission editor. Does it crash this time?

 

didnt work sadly

eafaviation

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1 minute ago, Flappie said:

Thanks. I just noticed you have the Hercules mod. I see it as a possible candidate for the crashes. The 3 steps above will disable it.

I did the steps and Unfortunately nothing changed

I renamed DCS to DCS.backup 

launched the game and it took longer than usual, it created a new dcs folder and still crashed

I was able to use the mission editor with 0 issues whilst having the Hercules mod 

Computers are complicated 😄

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5 minutes ago, Flappie said:

We'll get to the bottom of it, don't worry. If I fail, ED support will take over.

Please try a DCS repair in "slow" mode.

Yea, I'm on the steam version and I can't do the slow repair thing. However, I tried repairing via steam many times, but unfortunately it didn't fix it. 

I'm actually very thankful that you're trying so hard to help me and being so patient, even if I didn't get it fixed. 

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You're welcome. 😀

Let's take the usual 'DXGI_ERROR_DEVICE_REMOVED' path (this symptom happens a lot, but it can have many different causes). Try these steps one by one:

  1. Set Windows power plan to the max.
  2. If you're using GSYNC, take a look at this solution.
  3. Open the NVIDIA control panel, click "Help", then tick "Debug mode". It will set your GPU to its default factory frequency.
  4. In your BIOS, disable XMP profile.
  5. Remove dust from the inside of your PC.

 

 

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8 hours ago, Flappie said:

You're welcome. 😀

Let's take the usual 'DXGI_ERROR_DEVICE_REMOVED' path (this symptom happens a lot, but it can have many different causes). Try these steps one by one:

  1. Set Windows power plan to the max.
  2. If you're using GSYNC, take a look at this solution.
  3. Open the NVIDIA control panel, click "Help", then tick "Debug mode". It will set your GPU to its default factory frequency.
  4. In your BIOS, disable XMP profile.
  5. Remove dust from the inside of your PC.

 

 

Hmm, I got the issue fixed but I don't know how that even fixed it 

I enabled fullscreen in DCS settings and it worked normally again, it no longer crashes 

my game is always on fullscreen anyway so I think that setting shouldn't affect fps?

I'm very thankful for your help mate, we've made it 😃

I have a question tho, if I get a dlc, and I want it installed on another drive (a big map dlc let's say) can I do that? I would appreciate your help 😄

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1 hour ago, eafaviation said:

I have a question tho, if I get a dlc, and I want it installed on another drive (a big map dlc let's say) can I do that? I would appreciate your help 

Just move it, update shortcuts and run a full repair. 

I would also highly recommend Skatezilla's updater GUI. 

 

 

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On 9/10/2022 at 11:16 AM, eafaviation said:

Hmm, I got the issue fixed but I don't know how that even fixed it 

I enabled fullscreen in DCS settings and it worked normally again, it no longer crashes 

my game is always on fullscreen anyway so I think that setting shouldn't affect fps?

I'm very thankful for your help mate, we've made it 😃

I have a question tho, if I get a dlc, and I want it installed on another drive (a big map dlc let's say) can I do that? I would appreciate your help 😄

Great news! You mean you didn't even tried one of the 5 steps above? You simply enabled Fullscreen?

I don't know much about Fullscreen/Not fullscreen performance, but Fullscreen is supposed to give higher FPS.

About DLCs, you mean you want to keep DCS on one drive and install a DCS DLC on another drive? You can achieve that with symbolic links, but I would not recommend it unless you know what you're doing. On my end, I chose to spend some bucks to get a larger SSD drive (2 TB).

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1 hour ago, MAXsenna said:

Just move it, update shortcuts and run a full repair. 

I would also highly recommend Skatezilla's updater GUI. 

 

 

So, I'm supposed to

1-move the location of the map

2-What do you mean by "update shortcuts"?

3-Run a repair? (via steam in my case}

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