BuzzU Posted September 15, 2022 Posted September 15, 2022 (edited) I want to concentrate on the Hog and it just seems so right to use a Warthog HOTAS to do it. So, I bought a new one and got it today. What a surprise I got. TM finally changed the slew switch. I guess the gazillion complaints they got about the old one finally sunk in. It looks just like the one being sold on this forum that almost everybody bought. It works perfect. A 1000% improvement over the old switch. So, there's a $100 I won't have to spend upgrading the slew. I'll change to the green spring and i'll be done modding this Warthog. Sorry, if this has been talked about already. I've been gone for awhile. Edited September 15, 2022 by BuzzU 1 1 Buzz
GPatricks Posted September 16, 2022 Posted September 16, 2022 11 hours ago, BuzzU said: I'll change to the green spring and i'll be done modding this Warthog. Welcome back, good luck with that statement if you ever try someone's Warthog throttle with a VirPil WarBrd base installed... GIGABYTE X870E AORUS Elite WIFI7, Thermaltake 1200w PS \AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D - Corsair iCue Titan Liquid CPU cooler \ 64GB G.Skill Z5 DDR5 \ SBlasterX G6 \ 4TB NvMe M.2 Boot Drive \ Zotac GeForce RTX 4090 Trinity 24GB - Nvidia 576.28 drivers \ 3 Samsung LC32G53TQWUXEN 32" 7680x1440 at 144Hz Gsync \ Win11 Pro Ver. 24H2 - Build 26100.3915 \ TIR 5 \ Warthog HOTAS with VirPil stick base \ MFG V3 Pedals \ TM MFDs on 2 8" Lilliputs \ Simgears ICP \ Varjo XR-3 VR
MAXsenna Posted September 16, 2022 Posted September 16, 2022 36 minutes ago, =LD=Icer said: Welcome back, good luck with that statement if you ever try someone's Warthog throttle with a VirPil WarBrd base installed... That'll make him mod his Warthog more? I like my Warthog with a blue spring and 2x20cm extensions, but it has some serious design flaws that surfaced, that I need to take care of. I'm sure VBK/Virpils are awesome, but I rather have a better FFB stick than my MS FFB2s.
BuzzU Posted September 16, 2022 Author Posted September 16, 2022 1 hour ago, =LD=Icer said: Welcome back, good luck with that statement if you ever try someone's Warthog throttle with a VirPil WarBrd base installed... You mean the Warbrd base for the stick. Yes, it will be something i'll buy if the Warthog fails me. However, i've had 5 Warthogs so far and none of them broke or got stiction. The truth is I have a WinWing for the Hornet but I felt the Warthog would give me more immersion for the A-10C. I'm surprised nobody is surprised that TM changed the mini-stick. Did you guys already know about it and talk about it already? 1 Buzz
maxTRX Posted September 16, 2022 Posted September 16, 2022 2 hours ago, BuzzU said: You mean the Warbrd base for the stick. Yes, it will be something i'll buy if the Warthog fails me. However, i've had 5 Warthogs so far and none of them broke or got stiction. The truth is I have a WinWing for the Hornet but I felt the Warthog would give me more immersion for the A-10C. I'm surprised nobody is surprised that TM changed the mini-stick. Did you guys already know about it and talk about it already? I had no idea, will check it out. I'm on my second WH and it's already been 2 years of smacking it around. Only 1 mod on it (AB detent filed). I'm way behind the curve on what's new and improved in the sim hardware world. BTW, what's with the 'green' spring? 1
BuzzU Posted September 16, 2022 Author Posted September 16, 2022 1 minute ago, oldcrusty said: I had no idea, will check it out. I'm on my second WH and it's already been 2 years of smacking it around. Only 1 mod on it (AB detent filed). I'm way behind the curve on what's new and improved in the sim hardware world. BTW, what's with the 'green' spring? I think the stock spring is too stiff to make fine adjustments around center. The green spring is much lighter and feels like adding an extension but without the extra travel the extension adds. https://warthog-extensions-by-sahaj.com/shop/warthog-green-springs/ 1 Buzz
Burt Posted September 19, 2022 Posted September 19, 2022 Pretty cool on the new slew. I actually never had a problem with it and kinda like the nibble/low profile being hidden and not getting in the way or bulging out. I have the Delta sim mod but I haven’t replaced it. Would like to see how it looks as the TM website is not showing a pic of the new slew. 1 ALIENWARE R11 - I9 10900KF @ 5.1 GHz - M.2 NVMe 2TB - RTX3090 - XFURY 64GB -3400 MHz RAM Monitor AW3420DW @ 120Hz - Virpil CM3 Throttle - TM TPR Rudder pedals - Virpil CM2 w/TM Hornet Stick Center - Monstertech Deck Mounts RealSimulator FSSB-R3 Lightning Base w/ F16SRGRH SideStick - VR user / Varjo Aero - Big Thx to mbucchia Start Date April 2020
Svend_Dellepude Posted September 22, 2022 Posted September 22, 2022 There is a pic here: https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-HOTAS-Warthog-Dual-Throttles/dp/B00T5X3Z2S?th=1 @BuzzU Is this the one? 2 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Win10 64, Asus Maximus VIII Formula, i5 6600K, Geforce 980 GTX Ti, 32 GB Ram, Samsung EVO SSD.
BuzzU Posted September 22, 2022 Author Posted September 22, 2022 (edited) Yes, that's it. It really does work good. Edited September 22, 2022 by BuzzU Buzz
Burt Posted September 22, 2022 Posted September 22, 2022 Thanks for the pic ! It looks pretty nice actually. I wonder if we are able to get the new slew and replace the original one. I may contact them to check. ALIENWARE R11 - I9 10900KF @ 5.1 GHz - M.2 NVMe 2TB - RTX3090 - XFURY 64GB -3400 MHz RAM Monitor AW3420DW @ 120Hz - Virpil CM3 Throttle - TM TPR Rudder pedals - Virpil CM2 w/TM Hornet Stick Center - Monstertech Deck Mounts RealSimulator FSSB-R3 Lightning Base w/ F16SRGRH SideStick - VR user / Varjo Aero - Big Thx to mbucchia Start Date April 2020
maxTRX Posted September 26, 2022 Posted September 26, 2022 Thanks for the heads up BuzzU. I tested it today and yea... hell of an improvement over the old one. I still prefer to use my index finger on it. With properly adjusted dead zone and the curves I can control the movement from slow creep to quite fast. With HMD on, designating targets on the ground wasn't too bad either. And... I can check the 'realistic' TDC box in the setup now :)
BuzzU Posted September 26, 2022 Author Posted September 26, 2022 Now, if they'd just lighten up on the spring we'd have a better HOTAS. Buzz
rob10 Posted September 26, 2022 Posted September 26, 2022 Maybe you're aware of it, but the Sahaj green spring makes it just about right for desktop/non-extension use. Your shoulder will thank you https://warthog-extensions-by-sahaj.com/shop/warthog-green-springs/
BuzzU Posted September 26, 2022 Author Posted September 26, 2022 Yes, i'm aware and posted it in this thread. I've bought two and i'm about to order another one. They really do make it feel much better. I don't use a desk for the HOTAS but have them at my side Viper style. Thanks for your help. btw...I still feel TM should lighten the spring. They're suppose to have the same tension on the buttons and switches as the real Hog. How about the stick too? No way can the real stick feel this stiff. The stock spring feels pretty good with a 10CM extension. Buzz
Dragon1-1 Posted September 27, 2022 Posted September 27, 2022 The real stick has about 11kgf in pitch and 7kgf in roll, it actually feels much stiffer than anything you can put on the desktop. Same with the Viper stick, forces in the real aircraft are quite high.
BuzzU Posted September 27, 2022 Author Posted September 27, 2022 The Viper uses pressure and not movement. I know that is high stick pressure. You've felt a Hog stick? It uses a long stick and should feel light until air pressure goes up. I've flown a real P-51 and it is light compared to the Warthog around center. My buddy owns the Mustang. Lucky dog. 1 Buzz
tomcat_driver Posted October 18, 2022 Posted October 18, 2022 Thanks for pointing me to this thread. I didn't know newer warthogs came with an upgraded slew. I bought mine in August and it came with the old crappy slew.
BuzzU Posted October 18, 2022 Author Posted October 18, 2022 Just now, tomcat_driver said: Thanks for pointing me to this thread. I didn't know newer warthogs came with an upgraded slew. I bought mine in August and it came with the old crappy slew. I didn't know either until I got it. What a pleasant surprise. Buzz
Hamilton Posted February 5, 2023 Posted February 5, 2023 On 10/18/2022 at 8:33 AM, BuzzU said: I didn't know either until I got it. What a pleasant surprise. Hi BuzzU, Would you please confirm if yours is the MFR 2960739 (with the update slew). I didn´t find this information on the Thrustmaster website. I found a brand new with this MFR. Thanks! _________________________________ Aorus Z390 Extreme MB | i9 9900k CPU @ 5.0 GHz | EVGA RTX 2080 Ti FTW3 Ultra | 32 GB G Skill Trident Z 3600 MHz CL14 DDR4 Ram | Corsair H150i Pro Cooler | Corsair TX 850M PS | Samsung 970 Evo Plus M.2 NVMe SSD 1TB |TMWH Hotas with VPC WarBRD Base| Corsair Gamer 570x Crystal Case | HP Reverb
BuzzU Posted February 5, 2023 Author Posted February 5, 2023 The one i'm talking about in this thread was #167720. Buzz
Hamilton Posted February 5, 2023 Posted February 5, 2023 7 hours ago, BuzzU said: The one i'm talking about in this thread was #167720. Thanks, I guess you mean 2960720, that´s the item model number for the Warthog Flight Stick and Throttle. I want to buy only the throttle so the MFR is 2960739 (for the throttles only). I´ll try to contact the store again, when I asked the guy said: "I don´t know, the box is closed, etc." But thanks anyway. _________________________________ Aorus Z390 Extreme MB | i9 9900k CPU @ 5.0 GHz | EVGA RTX 2080 Ti FTW3 Ultra | 32 GB G Skill Trident Z 3600 MHz CL14 DDR4 Ram | Corsair H150i Pro Cooler | Corsair TX 850M PS | Samsung 970 Evo Plus M.2 NVMe SSD 1TB |TMWH Hotas with VPC WarBRD Base| Corsair Gamer 570x Crystal Case | HP Reverb
BuzzU Posted February 5, 2023 Author Posted February 5, 2023 I wouldn't buy without knowing for sure if it has the latest slew. Especially, when buying just the throttle. They don't sell as many of those as the Warthog HOTAS and is more likely to be the old style. Buzz
Hamilton Posted February 6, 2023 Posted February 6, 2023 3 hours ago, BuzzU said: I wouldn't buy without knowing for sure if it has the latest slew. Same here. But that add above (this thread): https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-HOTAS-Warthog-Dual-Throttles/dp/B00T5X3Z2S?th=1 is the upgraded slew. _________________________________ Aorus Z390 Extreme MB | i9 9900k CPU @ 5.0 GHz | EVGA RTX 2080 Ti FTW3 Ultra | 32 GB G Skill Trident Z 3600 MHz CL14 DDR4 Ram | Corsair H150i Pro Cooler | Corsair TX 850M PS | Samsung 970 Evo Plus M.2 NVMe SSD 1TB |TMWH Hotas with VPC WarBRD Base| Corsair Gamer 570x Crystal Case | HP Reverb
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