MNissen Posted September 22, 2022 Posted September 22, 2022 (edited) I'm still a newb when it comes to WIN10, because I'm running DCS and DCS Open Beta, in WIN10, inside Bootcamp on a Mac Pro 5,1. All on a 1TB SSD. Now it's nearly full. I've got all the maps and a lot of the planes. My idea is to get another 1TB SSD and - Uninstall, DCS and DCS Open Beta, then completely reinstall them, on the new 1TB SSD. So Win10 on one SSD and the DCS games on the other SSD. Hours and hours, yes I know, but a clean install for the games. Good idea? Or pitfalls and disaster? Any comments gratefully received. Edited September 22, 2022 by MNissen Mac Pro 5,1 (Early 2009) - 2 x 2.26 GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon - 48 GB RAM - Radeon RX 590 Mac OS X 10.15 - Bootcamp - Windows 10 - 2 x SSD 1TB - T16000M HOTAS - DCS World & Open Beta - Operator still a newbie
Rudel_chw Posted September 22, 2022 Posted September 22, 2022 1 hour ago, MNissen said: I'm still a newb when it comes to WIN10, because I'm running DCS and DCS Open Beta, in WIN10, inside Bootcamp on a Mac Pro 5,1. I used to do that, a very long while ago .. it was fun, but in the end I had to build a windoze machine to run DCS better 1 hour ago, MNissen said: All on a 1TB SSD. Now it's nearly full. I've got all the maps and a lot of the planes. My idea is to get another 1TB SSD and - Uninstall, DCS and DCS Open Beta, then completely reinstall them, on the new 1TB SSD. So Win10 on one SSD and the DCS games on the other SSD. That's not really needed, you can just move the DCS program folder from one drive onto the other. 1 hour ago, MNissen said: Hours and hours, yes I know, but a clean install for the games. Clean install is not always a good idea, on your /saved games/DCS/ folders you have accumulated a lot of useful and time-consuming stuff: downloaded skins, missions, your airplanes control binds, your logbook, your campaign status, screenshots, tracks, etc. You can instead move the DCS program folders and then run DCS repair utility on them, so that you know they are just as newly installed. Best regards, Eduardo For work: iMac mid-2010 of 27" - Core i7 870 - 6 GB DDR3 1333 MHz - ATI HD5670 - SSD 256 GB - HDD 2 TB - macOS High Sierra For Gaming: 34" Monitor - Ryzen 3600 - 32 GB DDR4 2400 - nVidia RTX2080 - SSD 1.25 TB - HDD 10 TB - Win10 Pro - TM HOTAS Cougar Mobile: iPad Pro 12.9" of 256 GB
MNissen Posted September 22, 2022 Author Posted September 22, 2022 Thank you for that, I assume I can just cut/paste the DCS and DCS Open Beta program folders, into the new empty drive?, or do I have to put a folder structure on the new drive? Mac Pro 5,1 (Early 2009) - 2 x 2.26 GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon - 48 GB RAM - Radeon RX 590 Mac OS X 10.15 - Bootcamp - Windows 10 - 2 x SSD 1TB - T16000M HOTAS - DCS World & Open Beta - Operator still a newbie
Mr_sukebe Posted September 22, 2022 Posted September 22, 2022 The guidance that I was given by Flappie was to copy and paste from one drive to another, then on the new drive, find and run the "DCS Repair" (full), which will rebuild the correct links to run it. 7800x3d, 5080, 64GB, PCIE5 SSD - Oculus Pro - Moza (AB9), Virpil (Alpha, CM3, CM1 and CM2), WW (TOP and CP), TM (MFDs, Pendular Rudder), Tek Creations (F18 panel), Total Controls (Apache MFD), Jetseat
MNissen Posted September 23, 2022 Author Posted September 23, 2022 Thank you for that. Mac Pro 5,1 (Early 2009) - 2 x 2.26 GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon - 48 GB RAM - Radeon RX 590 Mac OS X 10.15 - Bootcamp - Windows 10 - 2 x SSD 1TB - T16000M HOTAS - DCS World & Open Beta - Operator still a newbie
MNissen Posted September 24, 2022 Author Posted September 24, 2022 Last questions, should I move the saved games folder as well? and delete the original program folders from the old drive before I run "DCS Repair" (full) on the new drive ? Mac Pro 5,1 (Early 2009) - 2 x 2.26 GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon - 48 GB RAM - Radeon RX 590 Mac OS X 10.15 - Bootcamp - Windows 10 - 2 x SSD 1TB - T16000M HOTAS - DCS World & Open Beta - Operator still a newbie
Rudel_chw Posted September 24, 2022 Posted September 24, 2022 (edited) 10 minutes ago, MNissen said: Last questions, should I move the saved games folder as well? I wouldn’t move it, for one it is not a large folder, and two, you would probably get better performance spreading the DCS load over two drives than having everything on one (unless the new drive were much faster than the old one). 10 minutes ago, MNissen said: and delete the original program folders from the old drive before I run "DCS Repair" (full) on the new drive ? if you move the folder there shouldn’t be any original to delete, unless you are copying the folder instead of moving it. PD: remember to update your antivirus exclusions, if you use them, after moving DCS to the new drive. Edited September 24, 2022 by Rudel_chw For work: iMac mid-2010 of 27" - Core i7 870 - 6 GB DDR3 1333 MHz - ATI HD5670 - SSD 256 GB - HDD 2 TB - macOS High Sierra For Gaming: 34" Monitor - Ryzen 3600 - 32 GB DDR4 2400 - nVidia RTX2080 - SSD 1.25 TB - HDD 10 TB - Win10 Pro - TM HOTAS Cougar Mobile: iPad Pro 12.9" of 256 GB
MNissen Posted September 24, 2022 Author Posted September 24, 2022 Thank you very much 1 Mac Pro 5,1 (Early 2009) - 2 x 2.26 GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon - 48 GB RAM - Radeon RX 590 Mac OS X 10.15 - Bootcamp - Windows 10 - 2 x SSD 1TB - T16000M HOTAS - DCS World & Open Beta - Operator still a newbie
MNissen Posted September 27, 2022 Author Posted September 27, 2022 An update - that worked - thanks to all, for the good advice. I may be looking at the world through rose tinted glasses, but I detect a higher frame rate in DCS now, in the order of 62fps where I was getting about 58fps before. Mind you, the reason for moving the games was that the SSD I was using was very full, less than 10% free. So now I have 2 x 1Tb SSDs - Win10 etc on one - 82Gb used and DCS and DCS Open Beta on the other - 822Gb used. And being enthused, about all of this, I've just picked up a Sapphire Radeon RX 590 8GB NITRO + which is a step up from the RX 580 I'm using now and promises speed gains in the order of 10~15% I think I've got the bug now, I'll be overclocking soon and exploding the computer ! 1 Mac Pro 5,1 (Early 2009) - 2 x 2.26 GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon - 48 GB RAM - Radeon RX 590 Mac OS X 10.15 - Bootcamp - Windows 10 - 2 x SSD 1TB - T16000M HOTAS - DCS World & Open Beta - Operator still a newbie
Rudel_chw Posted September 27, 2022 Posted September 27, 2022 6 hours ago, MNissen said: I'll be overclocking soon Overclocking was really useful back in the days of Pentium processors, when you could really get significant performance increases of 30-50% with standard cooling, but nowadays it’s just not worth it: you get a small performance increase while risking ever increasingly costly processors or Gpu. For work: iMac mid-2010 of 27" - Core i7 870 - 6 GB DDR3 1333 MHz - ATI HD5670 - SSD 256 GB - HDD 2 TB - macOS High Sierra For Gaming: 34" Monitor - Ryzen 3600 - 32 GB DDR4 2400 - nVidia RTX2080 - SSD 1.25 TB - HDD 10 TB - Win10 Pro - TM HOTAS Cougar Mobile: iPad Pro 12.9" of 256 GB
MNissen Posted September 28, 2022 Author Posted September 28, 2022 On 9/27/2022 at 10:49 PM, Rudel_chw said: Overclocking was really useful back in the days of Pentium processors, when you could really get significant performance increases of 30-50% with standard cooling, but nowadays it’s just not worth it: you get a small performance increase while risking ever increasingly costly processors or Gpu. Yes thanks for that - I'm a Mac guy, I don't understand the Windows world, so running WIN10 inside Bootcamp, on my Mac is an adventure into the unknown. Mac Pro 5,1 (Early 2009) - 2 x 2.26 GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon - 48 GB RAM - Radeon RX 590 Mac OS X 10.15 - Bootcamp - Windows 10 - 2 x SSD 1TB - T16000M HOTAS - DCS World & Open Beta - Operator still a newbie
MNissen Posted September 29, 2022 Author Posted September 29, 2022 A summation: Running DCS in WIN10 in BootCamp in a Mac Pro 5,1. Works fine but it's a hobby, to get it all tee'd up in the first place. Moving the DCSWorld and DCSWorld OpenBeta folders from C drive to a new empty SSD. Works, but had to run cleanup and repair every time, to get either to open. It seems that even though clean up and repair should tell DCS where all the files are, something is not perfect... Compete re-install of both DCS folders on the new SSD. Works much better, happy now. New Sapphire Radeon RX 590 Nitro whoseadoofa something something. I am getting a consistent 70 fps in a clear sky, at altitude and up to 75~76fps. Around 55~65 fps in cities and forests. Note, if I try and adjust the graphics card settings with the AMD Adrenalin software, it all goes slower. So "Standard" for best results! Great forum this, thanks for the advice and comments! 1 Mac Pro 5,1 (Early 2009) - 2 x 2.26 GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon - 48 GB RAM - Radeon RX 590 Mac OS X 10.15 - Bootcamp - Windows 10 - 2 x SSD 1TB - T16000M HOTAS - DCS World & Open Beta - Operator still a newbie
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