VR Flight Guy in PJ Pants Posted February 22, 2023 Posted February 22, 2023 But they are expensive and I am an older person the prescription will change over time, rather quickly. I Fly, Therefore I Am. One cannot go around not saying "Thank you" every time these days, can't you? YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCc9BDi-STaqgWsjNiHbW0fA
Hillman Posted February 23, 2023 Posted February 23, 2023 13 hours ago, VR Flight Guy in PJ Pants said: But they are expensive and I am an older person the prescription will change over time, rather quickly. I payed around 55 USD incl shipping from honsvr.com 1 HW: AMD 9800X3D, 64Gb DDR5, RTX 4090, Winwing Orion 2 HOTAS, TM TPR rudderpedals, Pimax Crystal Light VR, DOF Hero 3 motion rig, Win11 DCS: P-47, P-51, Spitfire, Mosquito, Bf-109, Fw-190A/D, F-86, F-4E, F-5E, Mig-21, Harrier, Viggen, M-2000C, A-10C, F-14, F-15E, F-16, FA-18, C101, MB-339, Yak-52, AH-64, UH-1, Mi-8, Mi-24, Gazelle, Ka-50, CH-47F, all maps & tech, SuperCarrier
zaelu Posted February 27, 2023 Posted February 27, 2023 (edited) On 2/22/2023 at 8:44 PM, VR Flight Guy in PJ Pants said: But they are expensive and I am an older person the prescription will change over time, rather quickly. I have -7.5 both eyes and switched from Quest 2 to pico 4 and I had to buy again the prescription lenses. My advice is buy prescription inserts lenses and you will not regret it. In my opinion all VR headsets combined with wearing glasses inside them is horrible experience. I almost returned my Pico 4 to Amazon having the old Quest 2 still with me and being able to keep it in case Pico4 was bad. IT WAS HORRIBLE! And here is why: The glasses I wear and many others wear are square in shape and the lens does not fit over the headset lenses well. Basically the field of view is totally destroyed as everything around my glasses is not seen or not seen properly not only because of myopia but because there is no useful light path for anything around the glasses in the headset to reach the eyes. So everything that is around my glasses is gone. Also the glasses refraction plane is not aligned with the headsets lenses and screen as it is impossible to have the glasses placed inside perfectly even and symmetrically. And finally the cherry on top of this bad cake is that the glasses have a more or less IPD adjusted for your eyes... note on more or less... if you always felt you need to adjust to the new glasses for few days... this is one of the reasons besides the new changed dioptric numbers. So you have a natural IPD of your eyes in front of them you have a little different IPD of your glasses to which you are now adapted (and in these glasses don't stay aligned perfectly not even just on our noses without headset, inside headset is even worse) and in front o the glasses you have the lenses of Pico4 with the IPD adjusted either for your eyes or for your glasses or something in-between. The resulted light path is a total utter mess! So my whole hearted advice is buy lens inserts no mater you need to change them. You can even delay changing them if you happen to change glasses every year or so... I bought my inserts for Pico 4 from HONSVR. They were the cheapest (still are I think) and I received them extremely well made and packed. If the box was white and not grey I would have thought they are from Apple. This is where you can order them and I can tell you for me it was godsent as I kept my Pico4 and sold the Quest 2. https://honsvr.com/product/pico-4-prescription-lenses/ there is a picture with mypico4 and quest 2 lens inserts. Totally worththe expenses. Quest 2 were 100€ (from vroptician.com) and Pico4 50€ (from honsvr.com) Edited February 27, 2023 by zaelu 3 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] I5 4670k, 32GB, GTX 1070, Thrustmaster TFRP, G940 Throttle extremely modded with Bodnar 0836X and Bu0836A, Warthog Joystick with F-18 grip, Oculus Rift S - Almost all is made from gifts from friends, the most expensive parts at least
VR Flight Guy in PJ Pants Posted February 27, 2023 Posted February 27, 2023 (edited) Okay. Btw, this just arrived. Comfortable, lighter, can wear glasses with it. May not have all the FoV improvement though. Also, where can I cover the proximity sensor? I paste some Blue Tag on the little sensor between the lenses but it does not work. Edited February 27, 2023 by VR Flight Guy in PJ Pants I Fly, Therefore I Am. One cannot go around not saying "Thank you" every time these days, can't you? YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCc9BDi-STaqgWsjNiHbW0fA
zaelu Posted February 27, 2023 Posted February 27, 2023 I ordered one myself from Aliexpress and it's on its way from China. For all the improvements I would go for the lens inserts The sensor might work differently than the one in Quest 2 or at least is what I "felt" but not thoroughly tested. What I did observed is with Pico 4 all the problems from Quest 2 of losing track after headset turning itself off or resetting view are gone. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] I5 4670k, 32GB, GTX 1070, Thrustmaster TFRP, G940 Throttle extremely modded with Bodnar 0836X and Bu0836A, Warthog Joystick with F-18 grip, Oculus Rift S - Almost all is made from gifts from friends, the most expensive parts at least
VR Flight Guy in PJ Pants Posted March 9, 2023 Posted March 9, 2023 Finally...VRCover stuff for Pico4... https://eu.vrcover.com/products/vr-cover-for-pico-4 If the next OB patch cannot fix my issues with OpenXR with Pico4, I would return to Quest2 and sell the Pico4 set. I Fly, Therefore I Am. One cannot go around not saying "Thank you" every time these days, can't you? YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCc9BDi-STaqgWsjNiHbW0fA
Hillman Posted March 11, 2023 Posted March 11, 2023 Anyone able to run DCS/Pico with the Oculus runtime in the new MT-patch? With the previous you got into Oculus runtime by starting the Virtual desktop streamer with dcs.exe as a param. Now the same forces you into OpenVR. The screen flicker like mad, I'm positioned several meters to high in the Vr world and need to recenter, the performance is slightly lower and when I exit DCS I'm left in this anoying Steam world which I then need to exit to get back to Windows. Everything worked so much nicer and with less hassel with OculusVR. BTW: The performance gains on complex missions are great in MT. Just wish it had some --force_OculusVR switch... HW: AMD 9800X3D, 64Gb DDR5, RTX 4090, Winwing Orion 2 HOTAS, TM TPR rudderpedals, Pimax Crystal Light VR, DOF Hero 3 motion rig, Win11 DCS: P-47, P-51, Spitfire, Mosquito, Bf-109, Fw-190A/D, F-86, F-4E, F-5E, Mig-21, Harrier, Viggen, M-2000C, A-10C, F-14, F-15E, F-16, FA-18, C101, MB-339, Yak-52, AH-64, UH-1, Mi-8, Mi-24, Gazelle, Ka-50, CH-47F, all maps & tech, SuperCarrier
crispy12 Posted March 11, 2023 Posted March 11, 2023 (edited) 33 minutes ago, Hillman said: Anyone able to run DCS/Pico with the Oculus runtime in the new MT-patch? With the previous you got into Oculus runtime by starting the Virtual desktop streamer with dcs.exe as a param. Now the same forces you into OpenVR. The screen flicker like mad, I'm positioned several meters to high in the Vr world and need to recenter, the performance is slightly lower and when I exit DCS I'm left in this anoying Steam world which I then need to exit to get back to Windows. Everything worked so much nicer and with less hassel with OculusVR. BTW: The performance gains on complex missions are great in MT. Just wish it had some --force_OculusVR switch... It launches SteamVR for me. Half the time it CTD. I can run the non-MT version just fine, in fact I get very good performance on that at 45 fps capped and 180fps on pancake mode. I tried clean/repair and my OpenComposite is set to SteamVR. Looking for answers too Edited March 11, 2023 by crispy12
VR Flight Guy in PJ Pants Posted March 11, 2023 Posted March 11, 2023 No, MT version goes straight to OpenXR and crashes… I Fly, Therefore I Am. One cannot go around not saying "Thank you" every time these days, can't you? YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCc9BDi-STaqgWsjNiHbW0fA
RealDCSpilot Posted March 11, 2023 Posted March 11, 2023 MT with OpenXR running fine here over SteamVR. Be aware that this is a transition phase, everything performance related will change completely. We now got Multi Threading, later we also get the switch from DirectX11 to Vulkan and DLSS too. i9 13900K @5.5GHz, Z790 Gigabyte Aorus Master, RTX4090 Waterforce, 64 GB DDR5 @5600, PSVR2, Pico 4 Ultra, HOTAS & Rudder: all Virpil with Rhino FFB base made by VPforce, DCS: all modules
Hillman Posted March 11, 2023 Posted March 11, 2023 (edited) OpenXR/SteamVR with MT works for me too (with or without force_OpenXR param). It's just that the Oculus runtime works so much better! It's still supported in ST, why did they need to remove it from MT? Edited March 11, 2023 by Hillman HW: AMD 9800X3D, 64Gb DDR5, RTX 4090, Winwing Orion 2 HOTAS, TM TPR rudderpedals, Pimax Crystal Light VR, DOF Hero 3 motion rig, Win11 DCS: P-47, P-51, Spitfire, Mosquito, Bf-109, Fw-190A/D, F-86, F-4E, F-5E, Mig-21, Harrier, Viggen, M-2000C, A-10C, F-14, F-15E, F-16, FA-18, C101, MB-339, Yak-52, AH-64, UH-1, Mi-8, Mi-24, Gazelle, Ka-50, CH-47F, all maps & tech, SuperCarrier
beci43 Posted March 20, 2023 Posted March 20, 2023 On 2023. 03. 11. at 8:59, Hillman said: Az OpenXR/SteamVR MT-vel nekem is működik (force_OpenXR parammal vagy anélkül). Csak az Oculus futtatókörnyezete sokkal jobban működik! Még mindig támogatja az ST, miért kellett eltávolítani az MT-ből? How to set up the Oculus runtime environment?
Hillman Posted March 20, 2023 Posted March 20, 2023 3 hours ago, beci43 said: How to set up the Oculus runtime environment? You don’t need to install anything. Just start DCS using the “Launch game…” feature in Virtual Desktop. HW: AMD 9800X3D, 64Gb DDR5, RTX 4090, Winwing Orion 2 HOTAS, TM TPR rudderpedals, Pimax Crystal Light VR, DOF Hero 3 motion rig, Win11 DCS: P-47, P-51, Spitfire, Mosquito, Bf-109, Fw-190A/D, F-86, F-4E, F-5E, Mig-21, Harrier, Viggen, M-2000C, A-10C, F-14, F-15E, F-16, FA-18, C101, MB-339, Yak-52, AH-64, UH-1, Mi-8, Mi-24, Gazelle, Ka-50, CH-47F, all maps & tech, SuperCarrier
andreiru Posted April 7, 2023 Posted April 7, 2023 What is the best way to connect PICO 4, DCS? USB WIFI gnirehtet USB USB- Ethernet-wifi
Qcumber Posted April 9, 2023 Posted April 9, 2023 Wireless through Virtual Desktop gets the best results. PC specs: 9800x3d - rtx5080 FE - 64GB RAM 6000MHz - 2Tb NVME - (for posts before March 2025: 5800x3d - rtx 4070) - VR headsets Quest Pro (Jan 2024-present; Pico 4 March 2023 - March 2024; Rift s June 2020- present). Maps Afghanistan – Channel – Cold War Germany - Kola - Normandy 2 – Persian Gulf - Sinai - Syria - South Atlantic. Modules BF-109 - FW-190 A8 - F4 - F5 - F14 - F16 - F86 - I16 - Mig 15 - Mig 21 - Mosquito - P47 - P51 - Spitfire.
andreiru Posted April 9, 2023 Posted April 9, 2023 (edited) 5 часов назад, Qcumber сказал: Wireless through Virtual Desktop gets the best results. Wireless connection via virtual desktop, what is the maximum speed of Wifi 6? (150 .... 600 Mb) Edited April 9, 2023 by andreiru
Qcumber Posted April 9, 2023 Posted April 9, 2023 20 minutes ago, andreiru said: Wireless connection via virtual desktop, what is the maximum speed of Wifi 6? (150 .... 600 Mb) VD recommend a dedicated router with ethernet connection to pc. My router is 5GHz, 1200 but I think the recommended minimum is 866 mbs. 1 PC specs: 9800x3d - rtx5080 FE - 64GB RAM 6000MHz - 2Tb NVME - (for posts before March 2025: 5800x3d - rtx 4070) - VR headsets Quest Pro (Jan 2024-present; Pico 4 March 2023 - March 2024; Rift s June 2020- present). Maps Afghanistan – Channel – Cold War Germany - Kola - Normandy 2 – Persian Gulf - Sinai - Syria - South Atlantic. Modules BF-109 - FW-190 A8 - F4 - F5 - F14 - F16 - F86 - I16 - Mig 15 - Mig 21 - Mosquito - P47 - P51 - Spitfire.
No1sonuk Posted April 9, 2023 Posted April 9, 2023 9 hours ago, Qcumber said: VD recommend a dedicated router with ethernet connection to pc. My router is 5GHz, 1200 but I think the recommended minimum is 866 mbs. As with any network, it needs to be faster so that the speed you want can be achieved.
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