poochies Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 Sorry not at my computer to update OB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
admiki Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 Yes, both baro and radar hold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solution Floyd1212 Posted November 18, 2022 Solution Share Posted November 18, 2022 It is much better again, and seems to hold a hover nicely once settled down. I don't know what to expect out of the system when intentionally maneuvering the aircraft with ALT hold enabled. I was in a hover at tree-top level and tried to creep forward slowly with ALT Hold enabled and it allowed me to climb a bit before kicking in, then when I slowed back down to 0 it allowed me to descend a bit as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poochies Posted November 18, 2022 Author Share Posted November 18, 2022 great thank you ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corbu1 Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 Yes, feels much better now…. DCS MT : 2.9.4.53990 Modules: UH-1H - SA342 - KA-50 BS3 - MI-24P - MI-8MTV2 - AH-64D - CH-47F(Preorder) - UH-60L(Mod) - OH-6A(Mod) - A-10CII - F-16C - F/A-18C - FC3 -Combined Arms - Supercarrier - NTTR - Normandy2.0 - Persian Gulf - Syria - SA - Sinai - Afghanistan(Preorder) - Kola — Waiting for: OH-58D - BO-105 - AH-1G/F(Mod) - Australia - Iraq DCS-Client: 10900K, 64GB 3600, RTX3090, 500GB M2 NVMe(win10), 2TB M2 NVMe(DCS), VR VivePro2, PointCTRL, VaicomPro, Wacom Intuos S with VRK v2Beta DCS-DServer: 11600KF, 32GB 3600, GTX1080, 1TB M2 NVMe(win10), 2TB M2 NVMe(DCSDServer), DCS Olympus Simpit: NLR Flightsim Pro, TM Warthog Grip with 30cm Extension + Throttle, VPforce Rhino FFB, Komodo Pedals with Dampers, VPC Rotorplus+CBkit+AH-64D Grip, NLR HF8, Buttkicker (3*MiniConcert), TotalControls AH64D MPD‘s, TM 2*MFD‘s, Streamdecks (1*32,3*15,1*6), VPC CP#1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floyd1212 Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 Just flew again and there is still some oscillation there with Rad Alt Hold, but it is manageable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fakum Posted November 19, 2022 Share Posted November 19, 2022 Since this appears to now be reasonably functional, the question I have is,,, is it better to use this in Radar Altitude Hold or Barometric IF your intent is to hover? Im not asking about while cruising, thanks Windows 10 Pro - 64 Bit / ASUS ROG Strix B650E-F Gaming / AMD 7800X3D / G.Skill Trident Z5 NEO 64GB DDR5 6000 Ram / SSD M.2 SK hynix Platinum P41 2TB / MSI Gaming GeForce RTX 4090 SUPRIM Liquid X 24G / SteelSeries Arctis 7 Headset /LG-Ultragear 38" IPS LED Ultrawide HD Monitor (3840 x 1600) / Track IR4 / Thrustmaster TPR Pendular Rudder Pedals / Virpil HOTAS VPC Constellation ALPHA-R & VPC MongoosT-50CM3 Throttle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floyd1212 Posted November 19, 2022 Share Posted November 19, 2022 I don't know that you have the choice. Doesn't it decide which to use based on your altitude? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corbu1 Posted November 19, 2022 Share Posted November 19, 2022 (edited) vor 8 Stunden schrieb Floyd1212: Just flew again and there is still some oscillation there with Rad Alt Hold, but it is manageable. It‘s better than before, but some movement is still there in hover ……it‘s a slow about 10 feet up and down move. Edited November 19, 2022 by corbu1 DCS MT : 2.9.4.53990 Modules: UH-1H - SA342 - KA-50 BS3 - MI-24P - MI-8MTV2 - AH-64D - CH-47F(Preorder) - UH-60L(Mod) - OH-6A(Mod) - A-10CII - F-16C - F/A-18C - FC3 -Combined Arms - Supercarrier - NTTR - Normandy2.0 - Persian Gulf - Syria - SA - Sinai - Afghanistan(Preorder) - Kola — Waiting for: OH-58D - BO-105 - AH-1G/F(Mod) - Australia - Iraq DCS-Client: 10900K, 64GB 3600, RTX3090, 500GB M2 NVMe(win10), 2TB M2 NVMe(DCS), VR VivePro2, PointCTRL, VaicomPro, Wacom Intuos S with VRK v2Beta DCS-DServer: 11600KF, 32GB 3600, GTX1080, 1TB M2 NVMe(win10), 2TB M2 NVMe(DCSDServer), DCS Olympus Simpit: NLR Flightsim Pro, TM Warthog Grip with 30cm Extension + Throttle, VPforce Rhino FFB, Komodo Pedals with Dampers, VPC Rotorplus+CBkit+AH-64D Grip, NLR HF8, Buttkicker (3*MiniConcert), TotalControls AH64D MPD‘s, TM 2*MFD‘s, Streamdecks (1*32,3*15,1*6), VPC CP#1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
admiki Posted November 19, 2022 Share Posted November 19, 2022 27 minutes ago, corbu1 said: It‘s better than before, but some movement is still there in hover ……it‘s a slow about 10 feet up and down move. I tried it yesterday. 3 phugoids, each taking about 20 seconds to phase out. 1st +20/-10, 2nd +10/-10, 3rd +5/0. After that it's steady. 1200 ft AGL Now, if I am at perfect zero, alt hold will just keep it there. Problem a lot of people have is that they engage alt hold the moment VSI is at zero, it doesn't mean they are at stable altitude. It just means that helicopter wasn't climbing/descending as a reaction to your corretion from previous climb/descent, but it still has power setting which will not hold altitude. Why? Because you have to overcome inertia of your helicopter movement first. System needs time to compensate for that. If you hold that zero when you engage alt hold, it will hold with no oscilations. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TZeer Posted November 19, 2022 Share Posted November 19, 2022 (edited) I work as an automation technician. Oscillation makes me think the settings are not quite there yet when it comes to the values for the PID-controller. The behavior (increasing oscillation) is typical to see in any automatic regulation where the P function of the PID-regulator is adjusted incorrectly. If the total amplification value in the loop is higher then 1 oscillation will increase, lower then 1 will decrease oscillation. P-function in a controller is the way to adjust this. There are techniques to calculate the "correct" P-values, or at least an optimal setting to start tuning from. Ziegler Nichols first and second method. One of them is based on step response, the other is looking at when the loop is going into a self sustained oscillation. Edited November 19, 2022 by TZeer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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