MIP is highly unstable and crashes both DCS and Windows unless connected in a very specific way

[Gorn557]

Hello all:

I finally got my MIP a few weeks ago and I have to say, it is extraordinarily unstable. I have long had a bunch of flight sim-related peripherals connected to my PC and never had any issue with any of them. The MIP is an entirely different animal.

If I connect the MIP to my PC before boot, either via a powered hub or individually, about 3/4 of the time my PC will fail to boot, citing a watchdog clock timeout. So I have to have the MIP unplugged just to boot (it actually does this in Windows 10 and 11, I reinstalled the OS just to be sure).

Then, once in Windows, I have a whole new set of problems. If I have SimAppPro running and try to launch DCS in VR, it crashes, so I can't have SimAppPro open at all. 

Then, if I have the MIP plugged in at all, DCS will also crash, VR or not.

The ONLY way I can not crash both my PC and DCS is to hotplug the MIP after launching DCS. Otherwise, either Windows or DCS will crash. If I do it this way, the MIP works.

So does the MIP work? Yeah... kind of, I guess... but I would never ever recommend it to anyone under these circumstances. 

I have yet to have anyone recommend useful troubleshooting for this sort of problem beyond "make sure your drivers are updated" (they are), but I'd love to be proven wrong! I'll add that I've uninstalled and done clean reinstalls of both Windows and DCS. There's literally nothing on the PC right now except DCS (and SimAppPro). Anyone have any idea what might be going on here? 

[speed-of-heat]

i do not share these problems ... have you raised a support case with Winwing?

[Gorn557]

4 hours ago, speed-of-heat said:

i do not share these problems ... have you raised a support case with Winwing?

Yes. Ironically, they told me to make sure my drivers were updated. That's why I thought I'd try here. 

 

I've had tech support people telling me that for various issues since the DOS days, and it has yet to actually be the cause of a problem in my experience. 

[MustangSally]

Your the first, so I'd be looking at you system before blaming the MIP

 

 

 

[norman99]

It appears very much like you have some inherent instability in your system.

Many users use the MIP trouble free, so, without try to sound dismissive, I’d take a good hard look at everything in you system. Make sure you have enough power to drive everything, try running in 2D instead of VR, remove unrelated peripherals & close background software, etc etc. Anything you can to narrow down the problem.

Edited January 10, 2023 by norman99

[Gorn557]

16 hours ago, MustangSally said:

Your the first, so I'd be looking at you system before blaming the MIP

 

 

 

My computer is working fine.

I plug in thing X from a company. 

Now my computer doesn't even start. I ask for help on the thing I spent nearly $1000 on. And I'm "blaming" the manufacturer?

And it's certainly not true to claim no one anywhere has ever had a problem with MIP (just take a gander at r/hotas for example). 

Edited January 10, 2023 by Gorn557

[markturner1960]

Mine works fine…….