ATHS import

[markturner1960]

Hi, I am learning JDAMs and have Chucks guide and Pukin Dogs tutorials read and understood. 

However, when trying out in the sim, I cant get the targets I just set in the F10 to appear on the CAS or RECALL pages. I even bound a key to the  R CTRL+ Rshift+8 command, just in case my keyboard was not sending the correct info. 

I am doing this on the ground before the flight.

I used format #TP1 and also #TP01, pressing enter after each one and clicking out of the box using the X in the top RH corner.

Why are my targets not showing on the MFD pages or the kneeboard as they should please? 

 

I have also tried ( following Chucks guide religeously..) a TOO release. I get as far as designating the target, I have the initial JDAM symbology in the HUD as shown in his guide page, but dont get the LAR line in the EHSD, or the JDAM range indicator ( 2nd internal caret line) . When I press pickle, I just get the 4 diagonal lines.... I am in AG mode, MA on, JDAMS selected.....

Please put me out of my misery! 

Figuring out this stuff in the Harrier is an exercise in frustration, I love the module but why is learning its systems so difficult? There are so many updates and changes, most guides are out of date, its a nightmare......

Edited January 15, 2023 by markturner1960

[RaisedByWolves]

Can’t help you with first part. But for TOO release I designate with TPOD, then long press waypoint increment button for more than .8 seconds and then position the aircraft and get correct symbology in the HUD for release.

[Gunnar81]

19 minutes ago, RaisedByWolves said:

Can’t help you with first part. But for TOO release I designate with TPOD, then long press waypoint increment button for more than .8 seconds and then position the aircraft and get correct symbology in the HUD for release.

Correctamundo! This is the way.

[3000 Black Jets of Allah]

If you are clicking out of the map marker box with the X then you are deleting that map marker. To close them you need to press the - instead. I hazard a guess that they're not importing because you're deleting them straight after you create them.

[markturner1960]

Aaaaahhh….! That could be it! Let me try. Thanks

[deephack]

I show the up to date procedure in this video.

[leg_iron]

I have followed deephack's video that he pasted on this thread, but I still can't import any markpoints that I have made on the F10 map.  I was sat in the cockpit of my Harrier that's on the ground with engine running & with the INS fully aligned.  I have even reset the key binding for check map for targets to make sure its the correct key bind.     

[leg_iron]

On 1/16/2023 at 12:57 AM, 3000 Black Jets of Allah said:

If you are clicking out of the map marker box with the X then you are deleting that map marker. To close them you need to press the - instead. I hazard a guess that they're not importing because you're deleting them straight after you create them.

I've just put some markpoints on the F10 map and pressed the "-" when I finished typing in the TP#.  I closed the F10 map down but the markpoints still won't download to my kneeboard when I press Rshift+Ralt+8.

[leg_iron]

Has Razbam changed the format for the names of the markpoints on the F10 map?  I've been putting the names as T00, T01 etc.  This is what the various videos as well as Chuck's guide say to put the names of the markpoints as.      

[buur]

yes, RAZBAM had changed the format. Check the pinned messages in this forum. Should something like #TP1 #TP2 ....

[Ramsay]

2 hours ago, leg_iron said:

This is what the various videos as well as Chuck's guide say to put the names of the markpoints as. 

The latest version(s) of Chuck's AV-8B Guide has the updated ATHS Target Point F10 map format

So it looks like you'll want to update your current copy to the latest version (6th Feb 2023).

https://chucksguides.com/aircraft/dcs/av-8b/

 

3 hours ago, leg_iron said:

I closed the F10 map down but the markpoints still won't download to my kneeboard when I press Rshift+Ralt+8.

Note that when imported,
• initially the target points will only appear on the CAS message list
• Target Points are only listed on the kneeboard AFTER the received "message" has been given a Target Point i.e. message list -> message detail -> use -> ODU T1, T2, etc. 

Edited May 7, 2023 by Ramsay

[3000 Black Jets of Allah]

He did say he tried on the ground. When you're on the ground the points SHOULD be auto assigned as a T#, and if you do it in the air then you have to use the CAS page to assign them a T#.

 

The other thing I noticed that is slightly wrong from the Chuck's guide is that you don't need to name it #TP01, you can just do #TP1. No need to add a 0 to pad out the single digit points.

[leg_iron]

Thanks everyone for your help.  I'll download the latest version of Chuck's AV-8B Guide. 

[edudix]

Hey guys, I still dont get it. I’ve followed all the steps pointed above. 
When I press The RS+RA+8 the targets are not imported neither the kneeboard nor the Cas Page on the ground. I’ve followed the all the chuck guides steps and the remarked here. 
Has the method changed or it is bugged? 
Im getting crazy. Someone can help?

[buur]

vor einer Stunde schrieb edudix:

Has the method changed or it is bugged? 
Im getting crazy. Someone can help?

it is working. Have you entered it in the following format? #TP1    #TP2

The # is importand.

[edudix]

12 hours ago, buur said:

it is working. Have you entered it in the following format? #TP1    #TP2

The # is importand.

Yes I did it. The format #TP01.... and so on. 

As far as i understand it from the manuals, while on the ground (at the blue airfield) there is no need to have the A/G mode on, you have to be aligned (i guess).... mark the points in the map F10. Press "F1" to go back to the cabin, select the CAS page and press the RA+RS+8 to populate it. 

Can you let me know the steps you follow just in case?

These are the steps I´ve followed:

• Initiate the aircraft from a cold start. Following all the steps. Bat ON, DCS, on lift.... There is no need in describe all this I guess.
• Align the aircraft firstly GROUND MODE then when the ok is given pass to IFA mode
• F10 map marking the targets writing #TP01 and so on, even Ive tested #TP1... i´ve marked four targets...
• Select CAS page.
• Open the kneeboard, go to target page
• Press the RA+RS+8 command.

Nothing happens, Ive tested it in the three modes: NAV/AG and VSTOL just in case with no results either. Blue airfield KOBULETI.

I dont know it is really frustrating. Hahahahaha.

Thanks in advance!

 

Edited September 13, 2024 by edudix

[buur]

finally I do the same steps, except that make a hot start.

On the CAS page, at the bottom, there is a button RCALL. This brings you to the page where all the imported target points will be shown.

[edudix]

12 minutes ago, buur said:

finally I do the same steps, except that make a hot start.

On the CAS page, at the bottom, there is a button RCALL. This brings you to the page where all the imported target points will be shown.

Thanks man. But I dont get anything, neither cold nor hot. And nothing in the RCALL page either. Can you make a quick video following the steps? Just in case to chek it? if it’s not too much trouble, would be great.

[buur]

sorry, haven't set up any video recording tools.

[edudix]

On 9/13/2024 at 12:32 PM, buur said:

sorry, haven't set up any video recording tools.

What a pity...

Ok, I´ll figure it out. I´ll review what Im doing wrong.

[Gunnar81]

I think there is a bug report NineLine responded to on the Razbam Ed spat thread regarding the ATHS being borked, maybe this is the issue?

[Ramsay]

On 9/13/2024 at 10:44 AM, edudix said:

Can you make a quick video following the steps?

Here is a quick demo of importing ATHS F10 Map Markers after cold starting the Harrier in the current 2.9.7.59263 version of DCS.

 

3 hours ago, Gunnar81 said:

I think there is a bug report NineLine responded to on the Razbam Ed spat thread regarding the ATHS being borked, maybe this is the issue?

IIRC there may be a bug when working with DCS's built in JTAC i.e. when Mirroring the 9-line script as a AV-8B ATHS CAS Message, but I haven't tested/confirmed the report.

Edited September 18, 2024 by Ramsay