Stackhouse Posted January 26, 2023 Posted January 26, 2023 The F14 pilot is invincible and cannot be pilot sniped, for example with M61 rounds in BFM. Is this a technical limitation with the engine or something that can be fixed? 1
DSplayer Posted January 27, 2023 Posted January 27, 2023 1 hour ago, Stackhouse said: The F14 pilot is invincible and cannot be pilot sniped, for example with M61 rounds in BFM. Is this a technical limitation with the engine or something that can be fixed? It can be pilot sniped. It's just that the damage model is a lot more accurate than those of the F-18 and F-16. For the F-18 and F-16, if you hit anywhere in the entire canopy, the pilot is killed while for the F-14, you have to actually hit the pilot to kill them. F-14 damage/collision model: F-16 damage/collision model: As of now, the ED damage models for the F-16s and F-18s aren't as accurate/precise compared to the WW2 damage models. There was a reddit post on Hoggit about this recently and NineLine did respond regarding it: 3 2 Discord: @dsplayer Setup: i7-8700k, GTX 1080 Ti, 32GB 3066Mhz, Saitek/Logitech X56 HOTAS, TrackIR + TrackClipPro Mods I've Made: F-14 Factory Clean Cockpit Mod | Modern F-14 Weapons Mod | Iranian F-14 Weapons Pack | F-14B Nozzle Percentage Mod + Label Fix | AIM-23 Hawk Mod for F-14
Stackhouse Posted January 27, 2023 Author Posted January 27, 2023 (edited) On 1/26/2023 at 9:02 PM, DSplayer said: It can be pilot sniped. It's just that the damage model is a lot more accurate than those of the F-18 and F-16. For the F-18 and F-16, if you hit anywhere in the entire canopy, the pilot is killed while for the F-14, you have to actually hit the pilot to kill them. F-14 damage/collision model: F-16 damage/collision model: As of now, the ED damage models for the F-16s and F-18s aren't as accurate/precise compared to the WW2 damage models. There was a reddit post on Hoggit about this recently and NineLine did respond regarding it: This is super awesome, really casts a huge shadow on a misconception I had. Talk about survivor bias!! Edit: After testing this with guys at our community we can confirm that the F14 pilot is indeed invulnerable. Are you able to quickly explain what the different colors mean? Would love to understand that. Edited January 29, 2023 by Stackhouse 2
DSplayer Posted January 27, 2023 Posted January 27, 2023 20 minutes ago, Stackhouse said: This is super awesome, really casts a huge shadow on a misconception I had. Talk about survivor bias!! Are you able to quickly explain what the different colors mean? Would love to understand that. I'm not too well versed on this so I'm sure someone else who is more knowledgeable on the topic can probably shed more light but I think the different colors are just colors to differentiate each collision cell. 3 Discord: @dsplayer Setup: i7-8700k, GTX 1080 Ti, 32GB 3066Mhz, Saitek/Logitech X56 HOTAS, TrackIR + TrackClipPro Mods I've Made: F-14 Factory Clean Cockpit Mod | Modern F-14 Weapons Mod | Iranian F-14 Weapons Pack | F-14B Nozzle Percentage Mod + Label Fix | AIM-23 Hawk Mod for F-14
Askeladd Posted January 27, 2023 Posted January 27, 2023 Hey I have the same question, look at this short... I mean look at spray of bullets into the cockpit, I'm pretty sure that the pilot is invincible with this , unless the cockpit glass is made out of vibranium lol. https://www.youtube.com/shorts/9AcGSjdwLSI 1
The_Tau Posted January 28, 2023 Posted January 28, 2023 But isn't most AA guns HE filed? I am pretty sure shrapnel from 20 or even 30mm HE explosion on canopy would do bad things to pilot 1 Tau's Youtube channel Twitch channel https://www.twitch.tv/the0tau
=OPS=Slider Posted January 28, 2023 Posted January 28, 2023 (edited) We just did another test. Full mag dump from the Apache into the Tomcat's cockpit. Canopy open/closed/jettisoned, doesn't matter. The pilot is immortal. P.S. Jester died from one bullet (as expected). Edited January 28, 2023 by =OPS=Slider 3
Askeladd Posted January 28, 2023 Posted January 28, 2023 In this video me and Venom tested the pilot damage model. Jester can be killed but the pilot can't
IronMike Posted January 28, 2023 Posted January 28, 2023 Thank you for the reports, everyone, we will look into it. Indeed the pilot should be killable. 2 1 Heatblur Simulations Please feel free to contact me anytime, either via PM here, on the forums, or via email through the contact form on our homepage. http://www.heatblur.com/ https://www.facebook.com/heatblur/
Stackhouse Posted January 29, 2023 Author Posted January 29, 2023 4 hours ago, IronMike said: Thank you for the reports, everyone, we will look into it. Indeed the pilot should be killable. Many thanks! 1
Jayhawk1971 Posted January 29, 2023 Posted January 29, 2023 "DCS: Unbreakable" Tomcat pilot is Bruce Willis, Viper pilot is Samuel L. Jackson's character. 4
Askeladd Posted January 29, 2023 Posted January 29, 2023 hace 18 horas, IronMike dijo: Thank you for the reports, everyone, we will look into it. Indeed the pilot should be killable. Thx!! Appreciate the quick response. In addition to this topic, in my 7+ months of only playing the Tomcat, I have never been pilot killed. And I recently knew this because I have never experienced the 3rd person "death" camera, that everybody have experienced ("I asked how it is when someone pilot snipes you").
Dannyvandelft Posted February 16, 2023 Posted February 16, 2023 If it helps, my RIO punched us out and I died during the ejection Sent from my SM-G960U using Tapatalk
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