TMS Double clicks

[Reflected]

The manual has a nice chart of all the TMS functions in different modes, short and long press.

Where can I find the same for double presses?

Thanks in advance!

[WHOGX5]

2 hours ago, Reflected said:

The manual has a nice chart of all the TMS functions in different modes, short and long press.

Where can I find the same for double presses?

Thanks in advance!

The only double presses of the TMS I can think of are for the different FCR modes, and technically its not the double press itself that has a function, but rather you're using two different functions in rapid succession. For example, in TWS you can double tap TMS Down to first drop your track and then to return to RWS. Similarly, you should be able to double tap TMS Up in RWS to STT a target immediately rather than enter SAM mode in-between, though this usually doesn't work in DCS due to a STT in RWS requiring a system track which is not true in real life. Whether you double tap in short succession or do it 10 seconds apart you'll get the same end result for both of these examples. Therefore, technically, there aren't any double presses in the F-16C as far as I'm aware.

[Raptor9]

3 hours ago, Reflected said:

The manual has a nice chart of all the TMS functions in different modes, short and long press.

Where can I find the same for double presses?

The HOTAS functions in the current manual version on pages 80-84 are the only HOTAS functions implemented in DCS F-16C at this time. If changes or updates to the module include changes to the HOTAS functions, the manual will be revised.

[smire666]

I'm not sure if the avionics runs under Windows to use double-clicks as a function

[Reflected]

10 hours ago, WHOGX5 said:

The only double presses of the TMS I can think of are for the different FCR modes, and technically its not the double press itself that has a function, but rather you're using two different functions in rapid succession. For example, in TWS you can double tap TMS Down to first drop your track and then to return to RWS. Similarly, you should be able to double tap TMS Up in RWS to STT a target immediately rather than enter SAM mode in-between, though this usually doesn't work in DCS due to a STT in RWS requiring a system track which is not true in real life. Whether you double tap in short succession or do it 10 seconds apart you'll get the same end result for both of these examples. Therefore, technically, there aren't any double presses in the F-16C as far as I'm aware.

Thanks. It all came up when I saw a tutorial on the TGP about how you can use the TMS to return to the WP instead of pressing CZ. I was wondering what else am I missing, because using my mouse to press OBS buttons is much harder than using the TMS

[Raptor9]

38 minutes ago, Reflected said:

Thanks. It all came up when I saw a tutorial on the TGP about how you can use the TMS to return to the WP instead of pressing CZ.

TMS Aft commands Cursor Zero if the TGP is SOI and the TGP is not in Area or Point track.

TMS Aft also commands the TGP out of Point/Area track and back to Inertial tracking.

So if the TGP is in Point/Area track, the first TMS Aft commands the TGP to Inertial, the second TMS Aft commands Cursor Zero.

It's all about the TMS commands contextually changing based on your SOI and the state of the tracking sensor.

[Reflected]

3 minutes ago, Raptor9 said:

TMS Aft commands Cursor Zero if the TGP is SOI and the TGP is not in Area or Point track.

TMS Aft also commands the TGP out of Point/Area track and back to Inertial tracking.

So if the TGP is in Point/Area track, the first TMS Aft commands the TGP to Inertial, the second TMS Aft commands Cursor Zero.

It's all about the TMS commands contextually changing based on your SOI and the state of the tracking sensor.

Ah, got it, that makes sense, thanks!