Mi-24 Pilot novice questions

[Aussie_Mantis]

Hi guys,

 

I'm trying to figure out what settings to use as well as solve a few issues, so I'll just be brief and list them here.

 

1. My Mi-24, upon disengaging wheel brakes in the tutorial, is completely uncontrollable in the yaw axis and the pedals keep going full left or full right. I can't control it. Why?

2. I have a Gunfighter HOTAS and a Warthog throttle, along with TFRP rudder pedals. Are these the correct settings to be using for the trimmer and the like?

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3. What deadzones should I use, if any?

4. When I go into the hover test part, why does the helicopter yaw immediately force me into keeling over like it does on the taxiway?

5. Why is it that when I use autostart instead of following the tutorial instructions. the aforementioned yaw issues don't occur???

Edited February 28, 2023 by Aussie_Mantis

[molevitch]

Hi Aussie_Mantis,

there is a great video by Wolfpack about setting up trim for Mi-24. 

Try turning off the Yaw AP before you try lifting to hover. Make sure you are pointing into wind. Cyclic needs to be back and slightly right. Bit of right pedal too. Bring collective up SLOWLY until light on the wheels. Adjust for changes in pitch and yaw, and gradually lift. 

[admiki]

1 hour ago, Aussie_Mantis said:

Hi guys,

 

I'm trying to figure out what settings to use as well as solve a few issues, so I'll just be brief and list them here.

 

1. My Mi-24, upon disengaging wheel brakes in the tutorial, is completely uncontrollable in the yaw axis and the pedals keep going full left or full right. I can't control it. Why?

2. I have a Gunfighter HOTAS and a Warthog throttle, along with TFRP rudder pedals. Are these the correct settings to be using for the trimmer and the like?

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3. What deadzones should I use, if any?

4. When I go into the hover test part, why does the helicopter yaw immediately force me into keeling over like it does on the taxiway?

5. Why is it that when I use autostart instead of following the tutorial instructions. the aforementioned yaw issues don't occur???

 

Like molevitch already said, issues with your pedal/yaw behaviour is that yaw AP channel default mode is heading hold. On Russian helicopters, once yaw channel servo runs out of its authority, system will move pedals on its own to re-establish that authority.

There are 2 solutions:

- change pedals microswitch logic to "microswitches off" and bind a toggle switch to keep microswitch off (that way, yaw AP will work in dampening mode only)

or

- disable yaw AP channel (you will have no dampening).

 

As for your other problems, it would be best if you record a video or post a track file here, so we can check what is going on.

[AeriaGloria]

Yes, for example 5 happens becuase the auto start starts the helicopter with no yaw AP. So it can go into heading hold and auto trim you 

 

3 is becuase the tail rotor is very high up and causes a lot of roll coupling as tail rotor pitch changes. You will need right cyclic with right pedal and left cyclic with left pedal 

2. everything is fine but change “disable by setting pedals to nuetral” for microswtich logic. It doesn’t really work well in any situation. Do what Miki/Mole said, either set to MicroSwitch off and have a button/switch Hold down MicroSwitch until heading hold is desired. Or just keep yaw AP off until you want heading hold and turn off after

As for dead zones, that is personal preference but be as small as possible. 

Edited February 28, 2023 by AeriaGloria

[Rover]

Make sure to check the special settings for the mi24, the "control  helper" can some times turn back on and it really f**ks things up.

Makes it feel like someone else is fighting both you and the AP.