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DCS will keep crashing at random points during play. Looks like an ACCESS VIOLATION but I am not educated enough to be able to read the log and know what the issue is. Below is what stands out to me but again, I don't have an understanding of what it means. The full log is attached. Thanks!

C:\Windows\SYSTEM32\d3d11.dll

# C0000005 ACCESS_VIOLATION at 00007FFA62529C10 00:00000000

dcs.20230302-082254.log

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BIGNEWY

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Hi

welcome to the forum. 

It looks like a display driver crash, are you overclocking? if so try without. 

you should also increase your pagefile to 32693 MB as yours is set to low currently. 

make sure windows and all drivers are up to date also

thanks

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TheoreticalApex

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18 hours ago, BIGNEWY said:

Hi

welcome to the forum. 

It looks like a display driver crash, are you overclocking? if so try without. 

you should also increase your pagefile to 32693 MB as yours is set to low currently. 

make sure windows and all drivers are up to date also

thanks

Hi,

 

First, thanks for the reply and the information I really appreciate it.

 

As far as overclocking, I have a very mild undervolt applied to the GPU and CPU just to bring the temperatures down a bit, but the clock speeds are still the same. I don't know if that is even considered an overclock? I just lowed the power delivery a bit but both the GPU and CPU have no issues hitting their stock clock speeds, and I have never had stability issues in any game or heavy processing application including DCS until a couple days ago. I did however update my NVIDIA drivers right around the time the crashes started happening, I wonder if the new driver has an issue maybe? I think it is weird that it just started happening out of nowhere when nothing on the game side changed.

I need to read up on what the pagefile settings are just for my own education purposes but I will go ahead and change them and test the stability.

Thanks!

Edit: When changing the pagefile settings should I set it to the drive that DCS is installed on? I have it on a separate M.2 drive than my Boot drive. In that video he says to set all other drives to "none." Will that negatively effect the performance of the other drives (Boot and a large storage SSD)?

Edit: Immediately after posting this I went to double check and a new NVIDIA driver was released yesterday. I will update that, change the pagefile settings and run some tests in DCS.

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3 hours ago, TheoreticalApex said:

As far as overclocking, I have a very mild undervolt applied to the GPU and CPU just to bring the temperatures down a bit, but the clock speeds are still the same. I don't know if that is even considered an overclock? I just lowed the power delivery a bit but both the GPU and CPU have no issues hitting their stock clock speeds, and I have never had stability issues in any game or heavy processing application including DCS until a couple days ago.

DCS seems to react more than any other game when it comes to overclocking or undervolting.

3 hours ago, TheoreticalApex said:

Edit: When changing the pagefile settings should I set it to the drive that DCS is installed on? I have it on a separate M.2 drive than my Boot drive. In that video he says to set all other drives to "none." Will that negatively effect the performance of the other drives (Boot and a large storage SSD)?

You want your pagegile on your fastest drive (usually the one Windows chooses by default), as long as it has sufficient free space.

It doesn't matter if DCS is installed on that same drive, because data goes from DCS files to RAM, then from RAM to pagegile, then back to RAM.

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10 hours ago, Flappie said:

DCS seems to react more than any other game when it comes to overclocking or undervolting.

You want your pagegile on your fastest drive (usually the one Windows chooses by default), as long as it has sufficient free space.

It doesn't matter if DCS is installed on that same drive, because data goes from DCS files to RAM, then from RAM to pagegile, then back to RAM.

 

I have definitely heard that from many different sources about overclocking in DC. I will try everything else and if the issue still arises I will slowly take out the undervolt. I just really enjoy that I was able to make a 3090 never get above 67 decrees C haha.

I have two identical M.2 NVME drives (1TB each), I put the pagefile on my boot since it is in the top M.2 slot on the motherboard and uses the faster lanes. 

After doing this and updating the NVIDIA drivers which came out last night I was able fly in single player and on a highly populated multiplayer server for about 3.5 hours of flight time with no crashes. Hoping my issues are fixed, if not I will start to take out the undervolt.

Thanks for your help!

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2 hours ago, TheoreticalApex said:

So since making those changes DCS has been performing perfectly for about 15 hours total of flight time. Just had my first crash, same error I believe. The crash log is attached.

Thanks!

dcs.20230306-070645.log 214.7 kB · 1 download

The crash is your display driver, is your GPU overclocked or have a factory overclock?  

 

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2023-03-06 07:06:44.755 ERROR   DX11BACKEND (Main): failed to create vertex buffer. Reason: DXGI_ERROR_DEVICE_REMOVED
2023-03-06 07:06:44.755 ERROR   DX11BACKEND (Main): Failed assert `false && "failed to create vertex buffer"` at Projects\render\dx11backend_win8\Source\DX11BufferManager.cpp:183
2023-03-06 07:06:44.755 INFO    EDCORE (Main): try to write dump information
2023-03-06 07:06:44.756 INFO    EDCORE (Main): # -------------- 20230306-070645 --------------
2023-03-06 07:06:44.756 INFO    EDCORE (Main): DCS/2.8.2.35759 (x86_64; Windows NT 10.0.19045)
2023-03-06 07:06:44.756 INFO    EDCORE (Main): C:\Windows\SYSTEM32\d3d11.dll
2023-03-06 07:06:44.757 INFO    EDCORE (Main): # C0000005 ACCESS_VIOLATION at 00007FF92FD6C6E0 00:00000000
2023-03-06 07:06:44.757 INFO    EDCORE (Main): SymInit: Symbol-SearchPath: '.;G:\DCS World OpenBeta;G:\DCS World OpenBeta\bin;C:\Windows;C:\Windows\system32;SRV*C:\websymbols*https://msdl.microsoft.com/download/symbols;', symOptions: 528, UserName: 'Alex'
2023-03-06 07:06:44.757 INFO    EDCORE (Main): OS-Version: 10.0.19045 () 0x100-0x1
2023-03-06 07:06:44.904 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x000000000012C6E0 (d3d11): CreateDirect3D11SurfaceFromDXGISurface + 0x12F50
2023-03-06 07:06:44.904 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x0000000000040F14 (dx11backend): createRenderer + 0x295A4
2023-03-06 07:06:44.904 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x0000000000003655 (GraphicsVista): Resource::GetLastFrame + 0x745
2023-03-06 07:06:44.904 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x0000000000003108 (GraphicsVista): Resource::GetLastFrame + 0x1F8
2023-03-06 07:06:44.905 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x0000000000026FA1 (GraphicsVista): Graphics::RenderObject::render + 0x21
2023-03-06 07:06:44.905 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x0000000000313D9A (CockpitBase): cockpit::ceMeshPoly::self_render + 0xBA
2023-03-06 07:06:44.905 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x0000000000315473 (CockpitBase): cockpit::ceSimple::draw + 0xE3
2023-03-06 07:06:44.905 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x00000000003154E0 (CockpitBase): cockpit::ceSimple::draw + 0x150
2023-03-06 07:06:44.905 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x0000000000301AA0 (CockpitBase): cockpit::ccIndicatorPage::draw + 0x40
2023-03-06 07:06:44.906 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x00000000002F9A04 (CockpitBase): cockpit::ccIndicator::draw + 0x54
2023-03-06 07:06:44.906 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x00000000001C6CF2 (CockpitBase): cockpit::ccCockpitContext::draw + 0x42
2023-03-06 07:06:44.906 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x000000000037EBF5 (CockpitBase): cockpit::c_draw_debug_cockpit_tripod + 0x1BA5
2023-03-06 07:06:44.906 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x000000000067FA1B (DCS): SW + 0x213EAB
2023-03-06 07:06:44.906 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x00000000000E90DF (Visualizer): ViewportCalcCamera + 0x753F
2023-03-06 07:06:44.906 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x00000000000F030E (Visualizer): smSceneManager::DestroySceneManager + 0x6A8E
2023-03-06 07:06:44.907 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x000000000083F466 (DCS): SW + 0x3D38F6
2023-03-06 07:06:44.907 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x00000000008601F9 (DCS): SW + 0x3F4689
2023-03-06 07:06:44.907 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x000000000081F414 (DCS): SW + 0x3B38A4
2023-03-06 07:06:44.907 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x00000000008202F4 (DCS): SW + 0x3B4784
2023-03-06 07:06:44.907 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x00000000022EE5EF (DCS): AmdPowerXpressRequestHighPerformance + 0xF8B5EB
2023-03-06 07:06:44.907 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x0000000000C14F72 (DCS): SW + 0x7A9402
2023-03-06 07:06:44.907 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x0000000000017614 (KERNEL32): BaseThreadInitThunk + 0x14
2023-03-06 07:06:44.907 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x00000000000526A1 (ntdll): RtlUserThreadStart + 0x21
2023-03-06 07:06:45.152 INFO    EDCORE (Main): Minidump created.

 

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16 hours ago, BIGNEWY said:

The crash is your display driver, is your GPU overclocked or have a factory overclock?  

 

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2023-03-06 07:06:44.755 ERROR   DX11BACKEND (Main): failed to create vertex buffer. Reason: DXGI_ERROR_DEVICE_REMOVED
2023-03-06 07:06:44.755 ERROR   DX11BACKEND (Main): Failed assert `false && "failed to create vertex buffer"` at Projects\render\dx11backend_win8\Source\DX11BufferManager.cpp:183
2023-03-06 07:06:44.755 INFO    EDCORE (Main): try to write dump information
2023-03-06 07:06:44.756 INFO    EDCORE (Main): # -------------- 20230306-070645 --------------
2023-03-06 07:06:44.756 INFO    EDCORE (Main): DCS/2.8.2.35759 (x86_64; Windows NT 10.0.19045)
2023-03-06 07:06:44.756 INFO    EDCORE (Main): C:\Windows\SYSTEM32\d3d11.dll
2023-03-06 07:06:44.757 INFO    EDCORE (Main): # C0000005 ACCESS_VIOLATION at 00007FF92FD6C6E0 00:00000000
2023-03-06 07:06:44.757 INFO    EDCORE (Main): SymInit: Symbol-SearchPath: '.;G:\DCS World OpenBeta;G:\DCS World OpenBeta\bin;C:\Windows;C:\Windows\system32;SRV*C:\websymbols*https://msdl.microsoft.com/download/symbols;', symOptions: 528, UserName: 'Alex'
2023-03-06 07:06:44.757 INFO    EDCORE (Main): OS-Version: 10.0.19045 () 0x100-0x1
2023-03-06 07:06:44.904 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x000000000012C6E0 (d3d11): CreateDirect3D11SurfaceFromDXGISurface + 0x12F50
2023-03-06 07:06:44.904 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x0000000000040F14 (dx11backend): createRenderer + 0x295A4
2023-03-06 07:06:44.904 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x0000000000003655 (GraphicsVista): Resource::GetLastFrame + 0x745
2023-03-06 07:06:44.904 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x0000000000003108 (GraphicsVista): Resource::GetLastFrame + 0x1F8
2023-03-06 07:06:44.905 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x0000000000026FA1 (GraphicsVista): Graphics::RenderObject::render + 0x21
2023-03-06 07:06:44.905 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x0000000000313D9A (CockpitBase): cockpit::ceMeshPoly::self_render + 0xBA
2023-03-06 07:06:44.905 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x0000000000315473 (CockpitBase): cockpit::ceSimple::draw + 0xE3
2023-03-06 07:06:44.905 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x00000000003154E0 (CockpitBase): cockpit::ceSimple::draw + 0x150
2023-03-06 07:06:44.905 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x0000000000301AA0 (CockpitBase): cockpit::ccIndicatorPage::draw + 0x40
2023-03-06 07:06:44.906 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x00000000002F9A04 (CockpitBase): cockpit::ccIndicator::draw + 0x54
2023-03-06 07:06:44.906 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x00000000001C6CF2 (CockpitBase): cockpit::ccCockpitContext::draw + 0x42
2023-03-06 07:06:44.906 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x000000000037EBF5 (CockpitBase): cockpit::c_draw_debug_cockpit_tripod + 0x1BA5
2023-03-06 07:06:44.906 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x000000000067FA1B (DCS): SW + 0x213EAB
2023-03-06 07:06:44.906 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x00000000000E90DF (Visualizer): ViewportCalcCamera + 0x753F
2023-03-06 07:06:44.906 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x00000000000F030E (Visualizer): smSceneManager::DestroySceneManager + 0x6A8E
2023-03-06 07:06:44.907 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x000000000083F466 (DCS): SW + 0x3D38F6
2023-03-06 07:06:44.907 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x00000000008601F9 (DCS): SW + 0x3F4689
2023-03-06 07:06:44.907 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x000000000081F414 (DCS): SW + 0x3B38A4
2023-03-06 07:06:44.907 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x00000000008202F4 (DCS): SW + 0x3B4784
2023-03-06 07:06:44.907 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x00000000022EE5EF (DCS): AmdPowerXpressRequestHighPerformance + 0xF8B5EB
2023-03-06 07:06:44.907 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x0000000000C14F72 (DCS): SW + 0x7A9402
2023-03-06 07:06:44.907 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x0000000000017614 (KERNEL32): BaseThreadInitThunk + 0x14
2023-03-06 07:06:44.907 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x00000000000526A1 (ntdll): RtlUserThreadStart + 0x21
2023-03-06 07:06:45.152 INFO    EDCORE (Main): Minidump created.

 

It has a very mild undervolt applied just to help with the temperatures. Not boosting the clock speeds at all, just drawing less power and still able to hit stock clock speeds very easily. It is the Gigabyte RTX3090 Gaming OC. I don't know if the OC means it has a factory overclock applies or not.

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3 hours ago, TheoreticalApex said:

It has a very mild undervolt applied just to help with the temperatures. Not boosting the clock speeds at all, just drawing less power and still able to hit stock clock speeds very easily. It is the Gigabyte RTX3090 Gaming OC. I don't know if the OC means it has a factory overclock applies or not.

You can give the NVIDIA debug mode a try. On the NVIDIA control panel, click Help, then Debug. It should run your GPU at its factory default speed. See if it helps.

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