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Posted (edited)

A few days ago I made the change to using the Open XR Wrapper for my Aero supplied by Mbucchia and been running DCS great. A little bit ago it crashed, and now I can not get DCS to launch again using the Open XR wrapper., I tried a repair of DCS and installing the wrapper again, and still DCS will not launch.

Each time I try to launch it I get the below error message, and after clicking ok it just drops back to desktop. Any ideas?

 

DCS Crash.jpg

Edited by dburne

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  • dburne changed the title to Problem DCS now not starting with Open XR in my Aero
Posted

Just tried a clean install of Varjo Base software 3.9.

Still no go. I am dumbfounded on this one.

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Posted
18 minutes ago, dburne said:

Just tried a clean install of Varjo Base software 3.9.

Still no go. I am dumbfounded on this one.

Have you tried under a different Windows user profile?

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Posted (edited)
38 minutes ago, Sr. said:

Have you tried under a different Windows user profile?

Ummm no, not sure about that one...

I switched back to Steam VR and it is working fine, just for some reason Open XR no longer working and causing DCS to crash upon trying to launch it.

Edit: It won't launch in VR in Steam's Open XR runtime either, it does launch but to 2d desktop not VR. Currently only regular Steam VR (Open VR) is working properly. Very wierd. 

So I have tried:

Removal of the Mbuchhia wrapper and repairing DCS.  Removal and clean install of Varjo Base. Seems somehow for whatever reason running this wrapper for Open XR has really changed something on my end today and no idea what it has changed. It has been running fine the last three days or so without any problems. At least I can still fly DCS in Steam VR but I was really enjoying the added performance Open XR brought to the table.

Edited by dburne

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Posted (edited)

This is so very strange. After some more fiddling around with it here is where I am:

Regular Steam VR works fine. Steam VR's Open XR runs fine. If I try to launch in native Open XR using the wrapper for the Aero, it now launches but only on desktop and only minimized on desktop. Can not un-minimize it on desktop and no mouse control. Have to end DCS.exe with task manager.

Going to try a repair of DCS and try launching it in native Open XR before installing the wrapper. Interesting note just had a look in the Varjo OpenXR folder and this time it did not create an .original file after inserting the wrapper - odd.

Ok now it is back to crashing when trying to launch in Open XR again. Time to throw in the towel on this one, and just run it in either Steam VR or Steam VR's Open XR. I am at a total loss on why it is not running in Open XR natively any longer. I am sure it is somehow related to the wrapper I was using to get it to run properly in my Aero but I can not figure out what it is. All I know is now I can no longer run DCS in native Open XR with my Aero. I hate it as I got to see some better performance with it when it was working for me.

Edited by dburne

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Posted

Wrapper writes a log here:

%LocalAppData%\InstanceExtensionsWrapper.log

Worth checking this file out. Delete your current log file and try running DCS again to see if a new file is created.

However, if like you said, you reinstalled Varjo Base, well that part deleted the wrapper, so I'm doubtful that was the issue.

I wasn't banned, but this account is mostly inactive and not monitored.

Posted (edited)
10 hours ago, mbucchia said:

Wrapper writes a log here:

%LocalAppData%\InstanceExtensionsWrapper.log

Worth checking this file out. Delete your current log file and try running DCS again to see if a new file is created.

However, if like you said, you reinstalled Varjo Base, well that part deleted the wrapper, so I'm doubtful that was the issue.

 

This is what I have:

Will delete and try again to see if new file generates,

 

InstanceExtensionsWrapper.log

Edited by dburne

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Posted (edited)

Mine (working) looks exactly the same except my Varjo install path is "C:\Varjo\" as opposed to "C:\Program Files\Varjo" not that this should not make any odds. Permissions issue is unlikely I suspect. @dburne Do you have OpenXR toolkit installed?

 

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Posted

Ok so deleted the log file and tried again, same result DCS crashes. Log file:

 

InstanceExtensionsWrapper.log

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Posted
Just now, zildac said:

Do you have Open XR Toolkit installed?

Yes, all seems normal with it.

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Posted (edited)
5 minutes ago, dburne said:

Yes, all seems normal with it.

OK, which version. Lower than 1.2.4 may cause the issues you are describing. As a quick test, disable OXRTK using the companion app and try DCS again, and let us know. Also, the log from OXRTK would be useful you can grab it here:

 

 

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Edited by zildac

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Posted (edited)

Ok I disabled Open XR Toolkit with the Open XR Companion App , DCS launched in Open XR this time with no issues. Apparently with using the Open XR Toolkit it is causing DCS to crash for some reason. I am using version 1.2.4 of the app.

Edited by dburne

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Posted
Just now, dburne said:

Ok I disabled Open XR Toolkit with the Open XR Companian App , DCS launched in Open XR this time with no issues. Apparently with using the Open XR Toolkit it is causing DCS to crash for some reason.

OK, well, that's progress. Are you running 1.2.4? And can you post your OXRTK log file?

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Posted (edited)
4 minutes ago, zildac said:

OK, well, that's progress. Are you running 1.2.4? And can you post your OXRTK log file?

 

Yes, version 1.2.4. I re-enabled toolkit and got the crash again. Here are the contents of the OXRTK log file after this attempt to launch DCS:

 

[OXRTK] 2023-03-10 06:55:48 -0500: OpenXR Toolkit - GA-2 (v1.2.4)
[OXRTK] 2023-03-10 06:55:48 -0500: dllHome is "C:\Program Files\OpenXR-Toolkit"
[OXRTK] 2023-03-10 06:55:48 -0500: OpenXR-Toolkit layer is active
[OXRTK] 2023-03-10 06:55:48 -0500: Using layer: XR_APILAYER_FREDEMMOTT_OpenKneeboard
[OXRTK] 2023-03-10 06:55:48 -0500: Runtime supports extension: XR_KHR_D3D11_enable
[OXRTK] 2023-03-10 06:55:48 -0500: Runtime supports extension: XR_KHR_D3D12_enable
[OXRTK] 2023-03-10 06:55:48 -0500: Runtime supports extension: XR_KHR_opengl_enable
[OXRTK] 2023-03-10 06:55:48 -0500: Runtime supports extension: XR_KHR_win32_convert_performance_counter_time
[OXRTK] 2023-03-10 06:55:48 -0500: Runtime supports extension: XR_KHR_composition_layer_depth
[OXRTK] 2023-03-10 06:55:48 -0500: Runtime supports extension: XR_EXT_eye_gaze_interaction
[OXRTK] 2023-03-10 06:55:48 -0500: Runtime supports extension: XR_VARJO_composition_layer_depth_test
[OXRTK] 2023-03-10 06:55:48 -0500: Runtime supports extension: XR_VARJO_environment_depth_estimation
[OXRTK] 2023-03-10 06:55:48 -0500: Runtime supports extension: XR_EXT_debug_utils
[OXRTK] 2023-03-10 06:55:48 -0500: Runtime supports extension: XR_EXT_win32_appcontainer_compatible
[OXRTK] 2023-03-10 06:55:48 -0500: Runtime supports extension: XR_VARJO_foveated_rendering
[OXRTK] 2023-03-10 06:55:48 -0500: Runtime supports extension: XR_KHR_visibility_mask
[OXRTK] 2023-03-10 06:55:48 -0500: Runtime supports extension: XR_EXT_hand_tracking
[OXRTK] 2023-03-10 06:55:48 -0500: Runtime supports extension: XR_VARJO_marker_tracking
[OXRTK] 2023-03-10 06:55:48 -0500: Runtime supports extension: XR_HTCX_vive_tracker_interaction
[OXRTK] 2023-03-10 06:55:48 -0500: Runtime supports extension: XR_VARJO_view_offset
[OXRTK] 2023-03-10 06:55:48 -0500: Runtime supports extension: XR_KHR_vulkan_enable
[OXRTK] 2023-03-10 06:55:48 -0500: Runtime supports extension: XR_KHR_vulkan_enable2
[OXRTK] 2023-03-10 06:55:48 -0500: Runtime supports extension: XR_KHR_swapchain_usage_input_attachment_bit
[OXRTK] 2023-03-10 06:55:49 -0500: Application name: 'DCS World', Engine name: ''
[OXRTK] 2023-03-10 06:55:49 -0500: Using OpenXR runtime Varjo OpenXR Runtime 3.9.0
[OXRTK] 2023-03-10 06:55:49 -0500: Using OpenXR system AERO
[OXRTK] 2023-03-10 06:55:49 -0500: Overriding OpenXR resolution: 3240x2777
[OXRTK] 2023-03-10 06:55:49 -0500: Using OpenXR resolution (no upscaling): 3240x2777
[OXRTK] 2023-03-10 06:55:49 -0500: Using OpenXR resolution (no upscaling): 3240x2777
[OXRTK] 2023-03-10 06:55:50 -0500: Using Direct3D 11 on adapter: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090
[OXRTK] 2023-03-10 06:55:50 -0500: Early initializeInterceptor() call
[OXRTK] 2023-03-10 06:55:51 -0500: Open menu with Down
[OXRTK] 2023-03-10 06:55:51 -0500: Creating swapchain with dimensions=3140x2780, arraySize=1, mipCount=1, sampleCount=1, format=29, usage=0x21
[OXRTK] 2023-03-10 06:55:51 -0500: Creating swapchain with dimensions=3140x2780, arraySize=1, mipCount=1, sampleCount=1, format=29, usage=0x21

Edited by dburne

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Posted
3 minutes ago, dburne said:

 

Yes, version 1.2.4. I re-enabled toolkit and got the crash again. Here are the contents of the OXRTK log file after this attempt to launch DCS:

 

[OXRTK] 2023-03-10 06:55:48 -0500: OpenXR Toolkit - GA-2 (v1.2.4)
[OXRTK] 2023-03-10 06:55:48 -0500: dllHome is "C:\Program Files\OpenXR-Toolkit"
[OXRTK] 2023-03-10 06:55:48 -0500: OpenXR-Toolkit layer is active
[OXRTK] 2023-03-10 06:55:48 -0500: Using layer: XR_APILAYER_FREDEMMOTT_OpenKneeboard
[OXRTK] 2023-03-10 06:55:48 -0500: Runtime supports extension: XR_KHR_D3D11_enable
[OXRTK] 2023-03-10 06:55:48 -0500: Runtime supports extension: XR_KHR_D3D12_enable
[OXRTK] 2023-03-10 06:55:48 -0500: Runtime supports extension: XR_KHR_opengl_enable
[OXRTK] 2023-03-10 06:55:48 -0500: Runtime supports extension: XR_KHR_win32_convert_performance_counter_time
[OXRTK] 2023-03-10 06:55:48 -0500: Runtime supports extension: XR_KHR_composition_layer_depth
[OXRTK] 2023-03-10 06:55:48 -0500: Runtime supports extension: XR_EXT_eye_gaze_interaction
[OXRTK] 2023-03-10 06:55:48 -0500: Runtime supports extension: XR_VARJO_composition_layer_depth_test
[OXRTK] 2023-03-10 06:55:48 -0500: Runtime supports extension: XR_VARJO_environment_depth_estimation
[OXRTK] 2023-03-10 06:55:48 -0500: Runtime supports extension: XR_EXT_debug_utils
[OXRTK] 2023-03-10 06:55:48 -0500: Runtime supports extension: XR_EXT_win32_appcontainer_compatible
[OXRTK] 2023-03-10 06:55:48 -0500: Runtime supports extension: XR_VARJO_foveated_rendering
[OXRTK] 2023-03-10 06:55:48 -0500: Runtime supports extension: XR_KHR_visibility_mask
[OXRTK] 2023-03-10 06:55:48 -0500: Runtime supports extension: XR_EXT_hand_tracking
[OXRTK] 2023-03-10 06:55:48 -0500: Runtime supports extension: XR_VARJO_marker_tracking
[OXRTK] 2023-03-10 06:55:48 -0500: Runtime supports extension: XR_HTCX_vive_tracker_interaction
[OXRTK] 2023-03-10 06:55:48 -0500: Runtime supports extension: XR_VARJO_view_offset
[OXRTK] 2023-03-10 06:55:48 -0500: Runtime supports extension: XR_KHR_vulkan_enable
[OXRTK] 2023-03-10 06:55:48 -0500: Runtime supports extension: XR_KHR_vulkan_enable2
[OXRTK] 2023-03-10 06:55:48 -0500: Runtime supports extension: XR_KHR_swapchain_usage_input_attachment_bit
[OXRTK] 2023-03-10 06:55:49 -0500: Application name: 'DCS World', Engine name: ''
[OXRTK] 2023-03-10 06:55:49 -0500: Using OpenXR runtime Varjo OpenXR Runtime 3.9.0
[OXRTK] 2023-03-10 06:55:49 -0500: Using OpenXR system AERO
[OXRTK] 2023-03-10 06:55:49 -0500: Overriding OpenXR resolution: 3240x2777
[OXRTK] 2023-03-10 06:55:49 -0500: Using OpenXR resolution (no upscaling): 3240x2777
[OXRTK] 2023-03-10 06:55:49 -0500: Using OpenXR resolution (no upscaling): 3240x2777
[OXRTK] 2023-03-10 06:55:50 -0500: Using Direct3D 11 on adapter: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090
[OXRTK] 2023-03-10 06:55:50 -0500: Early initializeInterceptor() call
[OXRTK] 2023-03-10 06:55:51 -0500: Open menu with Down
[OXRTK] 2023-03-10 06:55:51 -0500: Creating swapchain with dimensions=3140x2780, arraySize=1, mipCount=1, sampleCount=1, format=29, usage=0x21
[OXRTK] 2023-03-10 06:55:51 -0500: Creating swapchain with dimensions=3140x2780, arraySize=1, mipCount=1, sampleCount=1, format=29, usage=0x21

 

Odd, this looks fine. And comparative to my log. May have to wait for @mbucchia to jump back in as I can't think of anything obvious.

Presumably you've run a slow repair etc etc?

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Posted
3 minutes ago, zildac said:

Odd, this looks fine. And comparative to my log. May have to wait for @mbucchia to jump back in as I can't think of anything obvious.

Presumably you've run a slow repair etc etc?

 

Ok thanks - I ran a standard repair, think I should try slow repair? Even though it works fine without the toolkit active?

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Posted (edited)
8 minutes ago, dburne said:

 

Ok thanks - I ran a standard repair, think I should try slow repair? Even though it works fine without the toolkit active?

It's odd that OXRTK enabled is causing the crash as you and I appear to be running pretty much the exact same HW and SW and I only ever experienced an issue when I either a) forgot to reinstall the wrapper after a VB update or b) Was running an older version of OXRTK with Turbo Mode enabled.

I would personally try a slow repair just to be absolutely certain, as it doesn't appear to be a VB or OXRTK issue. See if that helps.

The final option is to start OXRTK in safe mode and "spam" CTRL F1 F2 F3 to delete all the OXRTK DCS settings.

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Edited by zildac

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Posted

Tried an uninstall ( including appdata folder) and reinstall of Open XR Toolkit , still same issue. With Toolkit active DCS always crashes.

1 minute ago, zildac said:

It's odd that OXRTK enabled is causing the crash as you and I appear to be running pretty much the exact same HW and SW and I only ever experienced an issue when I either a) forgot to reinstall the wrapper after a VB update or b) Was running an older version of OXRTK with Turbo Mode enabled.

I would personally try a slow repair just to be absolutely certain, as it doesn't appear to be a VB or OXRTK issue. See if that helps.

The final option is to start OXRTK in safe mode and "spam" CTRL F1 F2 F3 to delete all the OXRTK DCS settings.

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Ok will give that  a whirl, thanks.

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Posted
2 minutes ago, dburne said:

Tried an uninstall ( including appdata folder) and reinstall of Open XR Toolkit , still same issue. With Toolkit active DCS always crashes.

 

Ok will give that  a whirl, thanks.

👍

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3 minutes ago, dburne said:

Tried an uninstall ( including appdata folder) and reinstall of Open XR Toolkit , still same issue. With Toolkit active DCS always crashes.

 

Ok will give that  a whirl, thanks.

As I recall an uninstallation doesn't remove the reg entries associated with the OXRTK settings for a given application. So if it is a config issue then this won't help. You can try the safe mode and "reset" method I mentioned, or go nuclear and delete the keys below:

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Posted
1 minute ago, zildac said:

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As I recall an uninstallation doesn't remove the reg entries associated with the OXRTK settings for a given application. So if it is a config issue then this won't help. You can try the safe mode and "reset" method I mentioned, or go nuclear and delete the keys below:

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Ok much thanks, will have a look when this slow DCS repair gets finished. I am not very hopeful the slow repair will help. 

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Posted
4 minutes ago, dburne said:

 

Ok much thanks, will have a look when this slow DCS repair gets finished. I am not very hopeful the slow repair will help. 

👍 I suspect you're right, but it's another check in the box. Try the safe mode and reset option after, hopefully that will sort it.

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Posted
16 minutes ago, zildac said:

👍 I suspect you're right, but it's another check in the box. Try the safe mode and reset option after, hopefully that will sort it.

Nope slow repair did not help.

Time to try nuke option I think.

Don B

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Posted
25 minutes ago, zildac said:

👍 I suspect you're right, but it's another check in the box. Try the safe mode and reset option after, hopefully that will sort it.

Nuke option worked in safe mode - however when I take it out of safe mode I am right back to it crashing when launching DCS.

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