Pitch Axis Red Exclamation - No Conflict Listed

[quyes]

I have just come back to the F14B.  I took off only to find that I could only control my pitch via the trim.  No big deal, I go into controls to find the issue.  I find a red exclamations over both the pitch label and the controller binding.  I figure it's an easy conflict that I just need to resolve so I mouse over the controller binding to find the conflict.  However, to my surprise the pop-up only says "joy_y" which is the listed value in the mapping (joy_y on my warthog stick).

My next step is to mouse over the red exclamation for the pitch label, maybe I can get some information about the conflict there.  Nope, the pop-up just says "Pitch".

So here's where it starts to get really strange.  I remove my joy_x mapping from roll (which when used as roll is working fine) and map it to pitch instead.  It also gets a red exclamation and a mouse over pop-up that says "joy_x" and the red exclamation remains on the pitch label that still says "Pitch".  At this point I figure pitch has multiple mappings.  So I remove joy_x and check for any other pitch mappings... ...there are none.  With pitch completely unmapped on all of my controllers the red exclamation remains over the pitch label and when I mouse over it the pop-up still says only "pitch".

Anyone have any thoughts?

[draconus]

What DCS version do you run? There were some fixes to this problem recently in Open Beta 2.8.3.

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Fixed Warthog profile for keybinds (fixes duplicate multiplayer chat keybind).

Otherwise, check this:

[quyes]

I'm running MT preview 2.8.3.

The deletion of "Joystick - HOTAS Warthog.lua" from the F14 config did the trick.

Thank you!!

Edited March 15, 2023 by quyes

[quyes]

I didn't test thoroughly enough.  I tested with only my joystick plugged in.  I came back later tonight with my full setup and the problem resumed.  I've now tested by removing one peice of hardware at a time.  I found that as soon as I unplugged my Warthog throttle the joystick y axis resumed functioning again.

Now that I've got a little bit more of an idea where the conflict seems to be I'm going to keep testing (I'm going to try deleting the throttle .lua) to start.  I'm still open to suggestions.

[RustBelt]

Are you 100% positive the Target Designator Slew X and Y aren’t doubled up on pitch and roll? It does that one to me a lot. Wish there was a way to make it stop “helping” with hardware setup.  

[quyes]

9 minutes ago, RustBelt said:

Are you 100% positive the Target Designator Slew X and Y aren’t doubled up on pitch and roll? It does that one to me a lot. Wish there was a way to make it stop “helping” with hardware setup.  

That was my first thought, so I stripped that and all other throttle axis bindings.  No change.

I actually deleted every input .lua with the exception of default.lua and that did the trick.  I tried adding them back one by one to see which one was causing it, but of course they all ended up getting put back and everything was still working happily.  I just finished a pattern around the carrier (and right into the back of it) so all of my controllers are now back to fully functionality.  While I'm not sure what specifically caused it the conflict, I now know how to fix it.

[paulferris]

Currently, I have exactly the same problem as Quyes noted in his original email, and only with the F-14. The pitch axis has the red exclamation mark, but the Joy_Y axis on the Warthog joystick is not assigned to any other axis which could conceivably relate to the F-14B.

I have deleted all profiles and re-entered from scratch. After entry, everything looked OK, but after restarting DCS the problem was right there again.

I updated to 2.9 today, but the problem was there on the previous build 2.8 build yesterday

Unless someone can help me to fix this problem, it seems that I will never be able to fly the F-14 again - a huge shame, as it's probably my favourite aircraft.

Thanks

Paul

 

Edited October 23, 2023 by paulferris
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[paulferris]

I think I may have fixed it with a clean and repair. That did some strange things to other peripherals (eg, replicating the pitch on my rudders), and deleted a number of button assignments, but once I'd sorted those, it seems to be OK now .... fingers crossed....

Edited October 23, 2023 by paulferris
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[paulferris]

I spoke too soon.... the red exclamation mark returned and I lost all pitch control...

After further testing, it seems that the F-14 is confusing the JOY_X and JOY_Y axes on my Warthog throttle and stick, only producing the error when they are mapped on both devices. I wanted to use the slew controller on the throttle as the DLC axis, but if I set this vertically as JOY_Y it interferes with the pich axis on the stick; and if horizontally as JOY_X, the roll axis.

This doesn't happen on other aircraft - eg, the F/A 18, where I use the slew axis as the TDC.

Any ideas please Heatblur?

[paulferris]

Still no fix for this? It doesn't happen with other aircraft...

Edited May 24, 2024 by paulferris
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[fayeliang]

2023/10/25 PM10点55分，paulferris说：

I spoke too soon.... the red exclamation mark returned and I lost all pitch control...

After further testing, it seems that the F-14 is confusing the JOY_X and JOY_Y axes on my Warthog throttle and stick, only producing the error when they are mapped on both devices. I wanted to use the slew controller on the throttle as the DLC axis, but if I set this vertically as JOY_Y it interferes with the pich axis on the stick; and if horizontally as JOY_X, the roll axis.

This doesn't happen on other aircraft - eg, the F/A 18, where I use the slew axis as the TDC.

Any ideas please Heatblur?

I encountered the same problem.Warthog throrrle TDC axis and righthand joystick axis was confused.i want use left throttle TDC axis to control DLC,but it always instead my plane pitch axis.red exclamation mark will on my setting page.i think it is tiny bug,because other plane like F18/A10/AH64 doesnot has same problem.so please fix it Heatblur.

please~

[draconus]

42 minutes ago, fayeliang said:

I encountered the same problem.Warthog throrrle TDC axis and righthand joystick axis was confused.i want use left throttle TDC axis to control DLC,but it always instead my plane pitch axis.red exclamation mark will on my setting page.i think it is tiny bug,because other plane like F18/A10/AH64 doesnot has same problem.so please fix it Heatblur.

Have you read this thread and the other linked one?