The Next Typhoon

[frodrigues2016]

Hi guys i am opening this topic to send to you pictures that i would like that the next Typhoon could be like. I know that the current Eurofighter is just a bit old so i would like to spend some time on the next

Edited March 18, 2023 by frodrigues2016
Beautifull Aircraft of the Futture

[Zahnatom]

huh?

[RaisedByWolves]

Is it required to think in Russian?

[Cunning_Raven]

1 hour ago, Zahnatom said:

huh?

My honest reaction

[Swayer]

Sorry bro this is not ace combat 

The “Firefox” is a fictional aircraft from a novel series . No serious technical info can be obtained for it 

Edited March 18, 2023 by Swayer

[Mike Force Team]

@frodrigues2016Comments coming to mind are "Wuhhhh????" and "I am confused."  A fictitious Mig-31 jet is not the same as a Eurofighter.  

@frodrigues2016 DCS focuses on the real-world, actual planes that currently exist or were retired from active service.  This is a confusing post.

Mike Force Team

 

 

[Scott-S6]

We don't need to speculate too much. The MOD and USAF both have public plans for the next gens.

The BAE Tempest is looking to be an evolution of the F22 into a drone controller. (It's the sleek one in the pics)

The US NGAD takes that idea further - if the drones are going to do the fighting then make the controller bigger to give it longer legs.

There's already an NGAD demonstrator flying, Tempest is a few years away.

Edited March 19, 2023 by Scott-S6

[Zahnatom]

5 hours ago, Scott-S6 said:

Tempest is a few years away.

so is FCAS

[Scott-S6]

1 hour ago, Zahnatom said:

so is FCAS

There's likely to be a bunch of cross-pollination between FCAS and Tempest. It might even become one airframe except that the French will insist on a catapult launch capable aircraft so we'll end up with at least two.

[Harry.R]

On 3/19/2023 at 4:27 PM, Scott-S6 said:

There's likely to be a bunch of cross-pollination between FCAS and Tempest. It might even become one airframe except that the French will insist on a catapult launch capable aircraft so we'll end up with at least two.

..and just when the rest have agreed they will get in a tizzy and leave the program to design their own thing anyway.

[Temetre]

Both FCAS and Tempest are still early in development, all the pictures you see are just mockups or creative artists.

NGAD has claims they already flew a tech demonstrator... but idk if I buy that they have anything remotely advanced. That would be incredibly quick, and from all I can tell, a lot about the designs acapabilities and features is still undetermined. And I doubt they do something like the F-35, start building the thing when its not even fully designed.

[frodrigues2016]

The jet looks good to me it has different engines unlike any other for is time and the design is almost perfect

the question is does it VTOL and i would like to notice that it is a medium to large plane in size so i leave to you the final decision about the Mig 31 firefox

Edited April 12, 2023 by frodrigues2016

[Scott-S6]

9 hours ago, frodrigues2016 said:

The jet looks good to me it has different engines unlike any other for is time and the design is almost perfect

the question is does it VTOL and i would like to notice that it is a medium to large plane in size so i leave to you the final decision about the Mig 31 firefox

 

The NGAD is a pretty large aircraft - I doubt very much that it has VTOL and would question why that would even be desirable.

[Dragon1-1]

The new aircraft won't look like the Firefox, and this is because the Firefox looks a lot like the XF-108 Rapier concepts. It was a hypersonic, long range interceptor meant to escort the B-70 Valkyrie on a high speed, high altitude nuclear bombing mission into the USSR. This mission profile is no longer relevant. Hence, no more long noses, no more cranked deltas, no more anhedral wingtips, no more giant intakes. The Firefox doesn't look like a "next generation" design, it looks like the road not taken in the 70s.

All those 6th generation concepts are stealthy, drone-commanding mini AWACS type of aircraft. I'd be surprised if they were particularly fast, but they sure are stealthy, and as far as avionics go, are electronic warfare platforms more than anything else. They only count as fighters because they have a few missiles strapped to them. 

[frodrigues2016]

Civlians and military personal i know the future is unmanned controled aircraft and there are a some to choose from.

 

The question is the future... should the next typhoon be unmanned or not or both. The present Typhoon is 4th Generation that means that is not stealthy and the

european airforces are a bit short compared with the US. So the first priority should be stealthy features and VTOL like a Harrier or OSprey and should carry a medium payload to help forces on the ground and have a ratio of range/fuel consumption very effective- The Harrier has a special engine that is very effective but is a small plane uncapable of carry large payloads and has a short range if the next typhoon could be a super Harrier with multirole capabilities 5th Generation plane with 2 engines a vey big in size capable of overcraft in the sky waiting for a mission and carry it in the most efective way then this new plane could really acomplish all the goals of a Airforce and could have a future. There is no new Harrier for a long time only the VTOL F-35 whitch i am not very fun about it i prefer a new Harrier with the triple size and two engines and many pipes controling the flow of air and manobrabitility. The Firefox was from another era of the URSS it belongs to the past but the design remains if there is someone here from the aircraft company of the Eurofighter Typhoon then my advice is keep up with the work done until now change the role of aircraft from materials to digital and think on the next Typhoon. 

[Scott-S6]

On 4/17/2023 at 11:18 AM, frodrigues2016 said:

The question is the future... should the next typhoon be unmanned or not or both. 

We know that for both the US, UK and Europe the next gen is planned to be a manned aircraft that controls a flight of unmanned aircraft. We would need to suddenly decide that we trust unmanned aircraft to deploy weapons autonomously to change that plan.

Edited May 1, 2023 by Scott-S6

[Scott-S6]

On 4/13/2023 at 9:37 AM, Dragon1-1 said:

All those 6th generation concepts are stealthy, drone-commanding mini AWACS type of aircraft. I'd be surprised if they were particularly fast, but they sure are stealthy, and as far as avionics go, are electronic warfare platforms more than anything else. They only count as fighters because they have a few missiles strapped to them. 

The UK and Europe seem to be struggling to fully commit to that but the US sure is.

[Temetre]

Btw, this seems like a solid dive into 6th gen plans and then sense and nonsense of it:

 

[frodrigues2016]

I would like to end this discussion topic by saying that i am going to search for a big Unmanned Vehicle and try to put it here on DCS so that it could be on this Simulation for diferent scenarios.

From time to time there are some free air ground or sea vehicles that can be modified i am going to see that and later i will post it on DCS.

 

See you soon.