Mission 2 confusion + Texaco TCN

[theIRIEone]

So i decided to fly R1 again, and got stuck in mission 2.

I then found a "fixed version"  of the mission on the official DCS user files section, which stated that it would be baked into the next update.
However this was a few updates ago and i couldn't anything about that in changelogs i searched.

So first question: Which version should i use? The one that comes with the module manager in-game or the one from user files section?

Currently trying with user files version:

Tanker TCN supposed to be 55X, but it isn't (A/A is active on my end), that is true for both versions as this bug triggered me to download the user files version.

When you manage to find the tanker for 2nd refuel, which is not seen on S/A page despite that E2 being not too far off, and constantly circling downwards into the clouds, you have to send in Smoke first.

He gets his fuel, but upon disconnect he just crashes the tanker bursting into flames..

Obviously this is rather frustrating as this happens towards the end of the mission and without being able to save midflight / prior to this happening you have to go through the whole thing again.. there go another 4-5hrs today without any progress, just doing the same things a couple of times and giving up.

I think i probably have to find away to cheat the mission somehow whenever i decide to try again, just to end up with enough fuel to spare out the 2nd AAR, albeit i'd prefer having the full experience here. Well, at least i know what is happening when and where by now, so i might get a headstart on that Fencer, just ignoring the training or something on that line.

[Pyrocumulous]

TACAN worked fine for me in M02 (2.8.3.38090 Open Beta MT) yesterday. I dialed it up in T/R mode (on 55X, I believe, whatever the kneeboard said) and coupled autopilot took me right to it, and then let Smoke tank first. TACAN A/A setting (for yardstick, I believe) doesn't ever seem to work for me, I just stick to T/R, which works great for finding tankers. Sometimes it's the wrong tanker, but that's a different problem.
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[rob10]

On 3/21/2023 at 8:38 PM, theIRIEone said:

Tanker TCN supposed to be 55X, but it isn't (A/A is active on my end), that is true for both versions as this bug triggered me to download the user files version.

You shouldn't be using A-A mode in the TCN for tankers.  You need to be in T/R mode.

[baltic_dragon]

The user files section is very old, unless stated otherwise use the latest version of the campaign that gets automatically installed. 

TACAN doesn't work in A-A mode for tankers for quite some time now, you need to be in T/R as rob10 says.

AI crashing into the tanker.. well, I have completely no control over that. I just assign the AI a mundane task which it messes up royally, which breaks missions making people upset with my campaigns  but that's part of DCS and we all have to live with it I guess...

[Iceviper]

@baltic_dragon Looks like Mission 2 may still be bugged. Followed it to the letter. After tanking Wingman cuts away. I anchor at waypoint 4 and wait but there's nothing. Tried putting more distance between me and him by flying to waypoint 3 as he seemed to only fly about 40 miles before turning back but there were no tapes on call or magic calls other than the checkin. Tried this mission 4 times now but same every time. Also noticed that the in-flight kneeboard has strike on Comm 1 channel 4 but the briefing kneeboard is correct with magic/strike on 3 and ship on 4. In the end, I just returned to the ship and landed (3rd attempt ). Scored a 50 draw so decided to take it and crack on but would have liked to have played the mission out. I'm flying on open beta latest edition for this date. Don't expect a reply and not complaining. Just a heads up. Cheers

[baltic_dragon]

Hey, I am doing an update of the whole campaign and changed a few things in this mission - but in all my trials everything worked as intended in the part you describe (flew it three times). Now some people have this bug, while others don't, I was never able to reproduce it nor was any of my testers. Blade will fly 40NM out and all the calls are made on Strike freq (channel 3 - that is what's in the kneeboard in the mission). Anyway, hope it will work OK after the overhaul, adding a lot of cool features (some of them listed in the video below). Cheers!

 

[Iceviper]

On 9/26/2023 at 11:12 AM, baltic_dragon said:

Hey, I am doing an update of the whole campaign and changed a few things in this mission - but in all my trials everything worked as intended in the part you describe (flew it three times). Now some people have this bug, while others don't, I was never able to reproduce it nor was any of my testers. Blade will fly 40NM out and all the calls are made on Strike freq (channel 3 - that is what's in the kneeboard in the mission). Anyway, hope it will work OK after the overhaul, adding a lot of cool features (some of them listed in the video below). Cheers!

 

Cheers. Ill give it another go once the update is out. Thanks for your continued hard work.

[stenji]

Hello, I am sorry for bothering you but unfortunately mission 2 still has some bugs. Often happens Smoke start circling around the carrier after the launch (Angels 2) while I am still between waypoint 2 and 3. When he does not do that and comes to my wing we proceed to AAR but once I disconnect from the tanker and I go for the Ice/Rain button I hear he asks correctly for the pre contact  putting himself in the right position for refuelling, few seconds later, when the contact is not happened yet, while he's still approaching the Intruder, starts banking and moving on the south east. I checked the mission plan and the refuel waypoint for Smoke is not matching with the Flip's but is ont he north east position from the carrier initial point. I think the mission planner for Raven 7.2 needs an update. 

[baltic_dragon]

Hey! I cannot reproduce this bug, for me everything works as intended. Have you tried to uninstall all unofficial mods (aircraft etc) and run the repair? We've had many cases where these would somehow affect the official campaigns. Don't worry about the mission planer, there are some quirks in the mission itself that aren't shown there - but as I said, I flew this mission several times (and a few testers too) - and everything worked fine. 

[stenji]

Ok, thanks... I'll give it a try

[Egyptman]

Hi,

I recently made a post about how buggy the radios in mission 2 were and with the recent update that has indeed been fixed so thanks for that.

There are 2 other bugs however that prevent the mission from progressing.

-Once you get to waypoint 1, the dialogue to then go to waypoint 2 and climb to angels 20 doesnt trigger and if it does, it trigger after passing waypoint 2, half way to wp 3.

-Once at the tanker, the wingman does not refuel once your done, he instead flies off into the distance and the mission progress cannot progress.

[epolta]

7 hours ago, Egyptman said:

Once at the tanker, the wingman does not refuel once your done, he instead flies off into the distance and the mission progress cannot progress.

Yep! Confirmed happens for me as well. After he takes off at the tanker, he never rejoined and the mission never progresses, so I can never make it to the point to see if he will ever break away for the intercept training.

[baltic_dragon]

I just pushed a hotfix for AAR part, because last patch which was supposed to fix things introduced a new bug that broke others... this all was fixed internally before the patch, which introduced some new problems. The new issue should be adressed in the next DCS hotfix. Sorry about this, but it was completely out of my hands.

[epolta]

On 5/26/2024 at 11:49 PM, baltic_dragon said:

I just pushed a hotfix for AAR part, because last patch which was supposed to fix things introduced a new bug that broke others... this all was fixed internally before the patch, which introduced some new problems. The new issue should be adressed in the next DCS hotfix. Sorry about this, but it was completely out of my hands.

Copy Baltic- thanks! I don’t envy you, mission creators, and the bug chasing you must spend a majority of your time doing, but we appreciate the immersion your mission bring!

[baltic_dragon]

Haha.. and another hotfix of a hotfix is on the way  but after that this mission should work like a charm!

[Shibbyland]

Just to confirm, is this fixed now or is it next update? 

I'm mission 2, launched before wingman but he just flys around at 1900ft doing nothing.

[MrSoggyBottoms]

On 1/9/2024 at 4:14 PM, stenji said:

Hello, I am sorry for bothering you but unfortunately mission 2 still has some bugs. Often happens Smoke start circling around the carrier after the launch (Angels 2) while I am still between waypoint 2 and 3. When he does not do that and comes to my wing we proceed to AAR but once I disconnect from the tanker and I go for the Ice/Rain button I hear he asks correctly for the pre contact  putting himself in the right position for refuelling, few seconds later, when the contact is not happened yet, while he's still approaching the Intruder, starts banking and moving on the south east. I checked the mission plan and the refuel waypoint for Smoke is not matching with the Flip's but is ont he north east position from the carrier initial point. I think the mission planner for Raven 7.2 needs an update. 

I'm getting that behavior to a tee. I've been all over the net trying to find an answer but nothing yet. 

[baltic_dragon]

Yes, reported. I'll see if I can troubleshoot this one.. I suspect some SC changes introduced with Air Boss station or upcoming taxi directors. 

[baltic_dragon]

Reported. Will try to fix.

[Vasco Ferreira]

stuck on M02 , replayed like 8 times the mission and when smoke is supposed to get 50/60nm away but no tapes on call from him, just go straight to fly to mother and circling around it

[Vasco Ferreira]

1 hour ago, Vasco Ferreira said:

stuck on M02 , replayed like 8 times the mission and when smoke is supposed to get 50/60nm away but no tapes on call from him, just go straight to fly to mother and circling around it

ok , the sonner i wrote in here, faster i found the solution. i think the trick was, before taking off i waited for smoke to be also on near ready. and then take off, and waited for him to be with me all the time. after getting fuel, instead of going directly to waypoint 4 , i then go first to waypoint 3 even if the conversation tells to go waypoint 4 for training. then ruined it all that i couldnt found the bandit  have to train more with the radar.