Viggen pilots and their (vanishing) F10 markers

[Minhal]

Hello there,

being a Viggen pilot, it happens quite often that our map markers get deleted. Either, and i think this is the usual reason, unintentionally/by accident or intentionally for trolling reasons. Setting up these markers for waypoints is a bit of work and having them deleted, especially when it happens repeatedly, can be quite some disturbance. I sometimes see myself just leaving the server because it feels like a waste of time.

I would love to see a temporary/short term solution for this until data cartridge as a core feature is available.

This could as example be done by:

1) (edited with below contributions of Kang and Machalot) If the text of the map marker is Viggen specific (see image below), then the markers should only be visible to other Viggen pilots. This would also mean less clutter for everyone else, since these markers are really just relevant for the pilot and maybe his wingmen. Maybe these special waypoints could also get another color, so they are easily distinguishable from common/visible ones. This would be my preferred solution as it is not intrusive and actually improves map readability for everyone.

2) If created by a player currently in a Viggen slot, the markers could be non-deletable by players (creator and admin only). To avoid clutter, markers could auto-delete x minutes after owner disconnected, so people having connection issues do not lose their markers. In case of abuse, the name of the creator is always visible on the map marker and admins can punish such behavior. Less preferred method, cumbersome and messy i think.

3) By other means, open for ideas from devs and community.

Thanks!

 

 

Edited March 30, 2023 by Minhal
incorporate feedback, readability

[Kang]

Perhaps it would be much simpler to have an option to put markers on the map that are only visible to whoever set them. Basically have 'regular' orange markers as we do and add 'private' green markers.

I can understand how it's annoying to have your markers removed by someone else, but at least in my experience that hardly ever is malicious intent, it's usually someone trying to clean up.

[Minhal]

Good point, did not think about this at all. Would enable everyone to set private marks. Something still useful even once data cartridges as a core feature have become a thing.

Only downside would probably be that Heatblur would have to change the Viggen code to use private marks instead of public ones. But i assume this would be a relatively minor change.

Thanks for the contribution Kang!

[Machalot]

Markers should be visible to wingmen. Otherwise they have no way to visualize the route, especially to identify landmarks for nav fixes. 

[Minhal]

Updated OP with your contributions. Think if Viggen specific named markers become invisible for everyone except Viggen pilots, the problem could be solved with positive results for everyone. Non-Viggen pilots would see less marker clutter, Viggen pilots would suffer less from marker deletion. Viggen markers should also have a different color to distinguish.