HAWK chronic drag and underperformance

[Default774]

Similar to the Patriot before last patch, the HAWK still suffers from the chronic drag issue. This means you can defeat the missile with the classic "turn 30 degrees to the right" manoeuvre. 

Additionally, the missiles motor seems to be underperforming massively. Most sources list the I-Hawk (MIM-23B, our hawk is the MIM-23K) and beyond having a top speed of Mach 2.5-2.7. Our MIM-23K in game only manages to barely reach mach 2 when firing at high altitude targets. Considering the underperforming motor along with the chronically high drag, our Hawk is pathetically ineffective.

The advertised maximum effective altitude of the system is 17700m (58000ft) which our current Hawk absolutely cannot match.

According to Jane's, the I-Hawk is supposed to have about an 0.85 SSKP (single shot kill probability), which our current Hawk does not get even close to.

Additionally, the in game Hawk features an absolutely atrociously high aiming error. This causes the missile to be an absolute champion of near misses in multiplayer with the missile just flying straight past aircraft without detonating.

Spoiler

Sources:

http://www.armedforces.co.uk/Europeandefence/edequipment/edmis/edmis5a5.htm

https://en.missilery.info/missile/ihawk

JANE'S LAND-BASED AIR DEFENCE 1992-93

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Edited May 20, 2023 by Default774

[ngreenaway]

is chaparral next up after hawk? 

[Default774]

Heres another track showing off the comically high aiming error on the hawk, featuring the missile missing and flying straight past a target flying straight and level.

hawk_aimingerror_2.acmi hawk_aimingerror_2.trk

[Hobel]

vor 20 Minuten schrieb Default774:

Heres another track showing off the comically high aiming error on the hawk, featuring the missile missing and flying straight past a target flying straight and level.

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is there information from when the PF igniter should trigger?

[Default774]

17 minutes ago, Hobel said:

is there information from when the PF igniter should trigger?

Not that I can find. The only information information around the fuze is that it has both an impact and proximity fuze. For what its worth, the MIM-23K, the variant we have in game, is supposed to have an upgraded fuze for countering TBMs (which our in game hawk cant do either, but thats an issue for another day).

[Default774]

Some additional information on the rocket motor. The initial boost phase is supposed to speed the missile up to mach 2.5, after which the sustainer motor ignites.

Source: Bill Gunston - The Illustrated Encyclopedia of Rockets and Missiles p.174

Edited May 26, 2023 by Default774