I need a suggestion for sim rig monitor

[Sorata]

I had till recently stopped trying to learn DCS as my pc setup was a pain with my controls,chair and table. So I decided to not to change my setup just for DCS but to get a sim rig. By the way a secret lab table though great sucks to attach controls too.
 

So I bit the bullet on the new Next Level Racing Flightsim Pro setup that they just announced and will be using that without changing my main table PC. Really wanted the Boing military edition but for my need the new rig has more options so will likely work better. Now for this rig what’s a good stand alone monitor. I’m still not sold on ultra wide at the moment due to the limited vertical fog. I don’t want to use the monitor on my main pc which is a Asus ROG Swift PG32UQX a 4k 1400HDR monitor. What’s good for DCS in 2k or 4k that a decently big view size I can put on a stand for this rig? Never had a rig so very hesitant on monitor I know a tv would be big but see a lot bout screen tearing so I dropped that idea. Any other details I need to post let me know I wanna keep the budget for the monitor to 1200 or lower and want this only for DCS. Will place it on a next level racing monitor stand and cable it back to main pc when I play.

Edited June 8, 2023 by Sorata

[SharpeXB]

I’m using this now and it’s fantastic. If it goes on sale it would be in your price range. 
https://www.lg.com/us/monitors/lg-48gq900-b

[BitMaster]

Tbh,

for 1500 bucks I expect full Gsync support with a Nvidia chip inside the monitor and not just Gsync-compatible cheap alternative

The feature set of those two differ a lot, i.e. lowest supported Hz/FPS for Gsync to work and some more.

[LucShep]

Beware the long-winded post...

On 6/8/2023 at 4:52 AM, Sorata said:

What’s good for DCS in 2k or 4k that a decently big view size I can put on a stand for this rig? Never had a rig so very hesitant on monitor I know a tv would be big but see a lot bout screen tearing so I dropped that idea. Any other details I need to post let me know I wanna keep the budget for the monitor to 1200 or lower and want this only for DCS. Will place it on a next level racing monitor stand and cable it back to main pc when I play.

 

Image quality and size (bigger resolution and size = more real estate) is important, as you'll soon find out.

You need to know first how firm is the stand in your sim-rig, and how much weight it can securely withstand.
I presume there won't be any problems but, make sure it's up for the task of keeping the big screen secure.
A 43'' monitor or TV is (+/-) around 9kg (19,8 lbs) in weight.
A 48'' to 50'' monitor or TV is (+/-) around 17kg (37,4 lbs) in weight.

Then, and as for size, it'll depend on the distance between the screen and yourself, and what you feel comfortable and most satisfied with.
For a single screen sim-rig, the 48'' or 50'' size screen is very popular these days.
My personal experience, I used a bigger 55'' curved screen (Samsung NU8500) at about 1.1m (3.6 ft) distance from my face and, while I was constantly in awe of it (was absolutely fantastic), I could never adapt to the size, just way too big for me.
One year after using it, I sold it and went for a 43'' flat screen at about 72cm (2.36 ft) distance from my face, and I'm happy.
I'd strongly recommend going no less than 43'', and to also consider the 48'' or 50'' screen size.

There are very good 43'' monitors (such as the LG Aorus FV43U) but I absolutely recommend 4K TVs for sim-rigs, it can't just be any model.
Still, and digging into the subject of 4K TV's and their specs for PC gaming, you'll find that some aspects are "horses for courses", it can be personal.

Take the screen refresh-rate, for instances.
Anything that is fluid (like DCS and other flight sims), and not the absurdly frantic pace of esport games, you don't need high refresh gaming monitors at all.
Personally, I've tested heaps of ubber gaming monitors (and TVs) and I still find that 60Hz is perfect for DCS. But I can also understand some people wanting a high refresh panel (120Hz or higher), perhaps because that's what they got used to.

Next the panel type.
I'll tell you right away that, once you see an OLED panel in its full glory, it's hard to forget the perfect image and motion quality (LG C2 OLED and every other of its 42'' and 48'' monitor and TV derivatives out there). The problem is the known permanent burn-in issues with constant static images in the mid-to-long term, which do occur even if babying it (it's real and still an issue with newest models, a royal PITA). Unfortunately, and at such high prices, that's the deal breaker for most people. Until that's fully corrected, it's why the tech will never become truly mainstream, remaining a niche product. Be aware and investigate these issues before investing in an OLED screen, or you may regret it later.

I'll recommend instead the next best alternatives, the Samsung QN90B and Samsung QN90C, either 43'' or 50'' screen size.
These are 4K QLED, 144Hz VA panels, and VRR if with HDMI 2.1 cable, both AMD FreeSync and Nvidia G-Sync supported. They look and work fantastic, also with a gaming PC. These are probably the best 4K TVs also for a high-end sim-rig because there's pratically nothing missing to OLED (even if directly compared) and with none of its drawbacks (no burn-in issues with static images). Beautiful image and motion, and no issues whatsoever. Of course, these are flagship models and they also come at a price, but worth it if you have the budget.
Other great alternatives are perhaps the Sony X85J and Sony X85K at either 43'' or 50'' screen size, which are 4K LED, 120Hz VA panels, and have VRR if with HDMI 2.1 cable (after a quick firmware update in the case of the X85J) with Nvidia G-Sync support, but no AMD FreeSync. They're sold at lower prices and likewise excelent options. 

Finally, "the tearing issues" concerns and the absense of VRR (Variable Refresh Rate) on the more affordable 4K TVs....
Mine does not have VRR and I don't really miss it, because one can always use Scanline-Sync (tutorial here). This is a not so known method, with which one uses V-Sync OFF with no tearing whatsoever. (note - following the tutorial and for this to work in DCS, "Optimal Performance" and "Fast-Sync" in Nvidia Control Panel should also be set, different to what's indicated there)
The only drawback with Scanline-Sync is, you first need to ensure that the FPS in the game are always same or higher than the native refresh rate of the screen (now you know why affordable 4K 60Hz TVs are popular). If that's ensured, then with Scanline-Sync there's no tearing, never, ever.  It locks framerate to native refresh-rate, smooth as butter.
In that aspect, with Scanline-Sync it's same as with V-Sync ON, but with all the practical benefits of V-Sync OFF (imediate controller inputs, less GPU usage, etc), i.e, perfect.  

Edited June 11, 2023 by LucShep

[Sorata]

Thank you very much! I appreciate the input, I was thinking between a tv and odyssey g9 of some type but thought the 32:9 ratio to be too much, I think I’ll get a Samsung tv as they have a very good sale and a first responder discount I could use.  I’ll look through everyone’s suggestions and try to narrow it down and of course need to rearrange the room  gonna be tight with my consoles and their tv and my pc setup with the sim put in the middle of the room.

[kestrel79]

I'm slowly waiting (for over 10 years) for all 3 of my 27" 1080p monitors from the triple screen setup to die so I can upgrade to one big screen. What's the max monitor size that can be mounted on an Obutto Ozone cockpit?

I might finally upgrade to a new 80/20 cockpit just to get a larger screen in there. But I still have 2 monitors left from my original 3. I sim in VR so the blown screen isn't needed now really.

[Sorata]

On 6/15/2023 at 9:48 AM, kestrel79 said:

I'm slowly waiting (for over 10 years) for all 3 of my 27" 1080p monitors from the triple screen setup to die so I can upgrade to one big screen. What's the max monitor size that can be mounted on an Obutto Ozone cockpit?

I might finally upgrade to a new 80/20 cockpit just to get a larger screen in there. But I still have 2 monitors left from my original 3. I sim in VR so the blown screen isn't needed now really.

Sorry it took so long to see this I lost track of the topic. Sucks about loosing the one monitor But I think you'll like going to one big one. I don't know any specifics to that cockpit. Took me a bit due to some IRL delays but I went with a 77" OLED and wall mounted it to sit above my where my WINWING MIPS sit on my simpit.