investigating George as CPG stops slaving after engaging first target/Can't Safe weapons

[sasquatch98]

I’m having this issue right now on tempest blue flash, I’m not bothering with a track since that system is broken as well obviously. Please fire George and replace him with Petrovich, I’m okay with the cpg area reeking of vodka and dirty tracksuits if he’ll follow orders. 
 

Also hopping in the cpg seat and swapping the acq source to phs mostly fixed it, seemed like his aim was off with the hellfire k after that though.

Edited August 26, 2023 by sasquatch98

[Furiz]

Had this happen today, after de-slaving George wouldn't find targets anymore and I couldn't SAFE weapons. The track is long so...

It happened after I commanded him off target and to search for new targets few times.

[ardaedhel]

I found this thread because George just started doing this to me, and it happened two flights in a row. I'm pretty new to the Apache so I'm not gonna be much use troubleshooting, but it does seem to start when I do up-short/down-short/up-short. If I get a chance I'll see if I can get it to reproduce more reliably.

 

Worth noting this is happening on a MP server I'm running off of my local host. Not headless, I'm just hosting the server from my client, so in my case it's happening in MP with zero network latency. 

[pii]

On 6/8/2023 at 1:05 AM, KeyserSoze62 said:

I saw some similar posts but not exactly this description so apologies if we think this is already reported. This is new since last update for me. I start a mission as Back Seat with George AI as CPG.  I bring up George. WAS any weapon. Direct George to Slave. He will slave over reliably until I lock on and Lase first target.  Whether I engage the target or not he will not Slave anymore after the first target.  I have tried wasing any other weapon, de-was, turning him off and back on and back and forth but nothing brings him back. He will continue to WAS other weapons, will De-Was, will change from LOBL to LOAL, will change rocket counts etc.  He just wont slave anymore.

I also cannot place the weapons back on Safe once this happens.  If I press the ARM/Safe button it just stays armed and keeps repeating "Weapons Armed."

Now what I feel pretty positive about is this only happens on Cold Start missions.  I ran a few Hot Starts and no problem. Went back to a Cold Start and it did it again on 2 missions and then was OK on the 3rd.

 I will try and get a track. Of course when i went to save it didn't do it.

I had this issue also and you have to de-WAS your Weapons before you leave George to his own. 

Edited September 10, 2023 by pii

[Marshallman]

Problems again today  Goerge calling "Firing " and does nothing....re slave and repeats....

All in range, all clear views, all laser on laser off.

Regards

[Pydrex]

I had this today on Greyflag, he found targets but I couldn't select them via the right/left push on the AI Bind.

 

I am unsure if this is an on-going MP Bug where if you was previously in another aircraft , switch to another with AI the AI selections do not work/work as intended for Menu selection. Only rebooting your game fixes. 

[Mexmarsouin]

Hi guys,

I experienced that bug too, and, even if it's random, it happens quiet often.
I played on 3 different servers today, it happened on everyone of them.

I dont know if it gonna help the devs, but when that bug occurs, and when i jump in the front seat, my "WPN" button is frenetically pushed without me doing any input, maybe it's the origin of the bug ?

Moreover, because of that button being pushed pushed, i cant lase as a CPG, nor accuratly slew the TADS because that "WPN" input override slewing and lasing.

I can provide a track if needed, but they are pretty long too...

[mason.zh]

This also happened to me yesterday, if I switched to the front seat I could not even move the TADS. George was fine for my previous flight, the only thing I missed was aligning my IHAADS during the cold start, however, the issue was still there after I found a place to land and re-calibrated the IHAADS. 

I also found some other weird bugs during this process:

1) The front seat MFD was stuck at the weapon page, for example, if I clicked TSD button the WPN button would be triggered somehow, and I could see the WPN button being pressed down many times. 

2) The front seat laser second detent button could not be held, by this I mean if I held down the laser second stage detent the laser would only be turned on for a few seconds and shut off.

3) There was no way to choose TADS as ACQ Source in the backseat or the front seat. TADS option was missing.

4) TADS can not be moved freely in the front seat using RHG MAN TRACK controller, the TADS movement was really jerky and sluggish. 

Edited November 23, 2023 by mason.zh