w.i.p VRS-Mode Efficiency

[TheGhostOfDefi]

I´d like to get some advise:

I tested the VRS mode several times but failed to gain an advantage with it over RWS. 

I basically tested 4 scenarios 1st Mig-29 M0.8 2nd Mig-29 M2 and the same with the Mig-21. All were Head on.

I would be happy for some input if this is "Correct as is" or i make a mistake of some kind.

[oznckr]

Nothing special see enemy exactly same with other modes. 

Edited June 8, 2023 by oznckr

[falcon_120]

I guess that means they just included the new mode but under the same radar framework code.

It is supposed to change in the future. Hi PRF modes like VRS should pick fast hot target a bit earlier than MPRF modes.

Enviado desde mi ELE-L29 mediante Tapatalk

[Lord Vader]

Hi all

VRS mode will allow a slightly longer detection and locking distance with high aspect targets. But don't expect a huge difference.

The RWS mode was slightly reduced in range to reflect real life capabilities a bit better. So, you'll lock fighter sized aircraft a bit closer than before, while VRS will still enable you to detect them a bit further, kind of similar to the previous RWS range values, closer to 40nm. Again, with high aspect targets only, preferably in co-altitude or above.

Yes, this radar is very limited, so we'll take any slight advantage we can get, right?

[Comrade Doge]

3 hours ago, Lord Vader said:

Hi all

VRS mode will allow a slightly longer detection and locking distance with high aspect targets. But don't expect a huge difference.

The RWS mode was slightly reduced in range to reflect real life capabilities a bit better. So, you'll lock fighter sized aircraft a bit closer than before, while VRS will still enable you to detect them a bit further, kind of similar to the previous RWS range values, closer to 40nm. Again, with high aspect targets only, preferably in co-altitude or above.

Yes, this radar is very limited, so we'll take any slight advantage we can get, right?

Is it also normal for the radar to not be able to track an orbiting target in uplook? As soon as the target is beaming, it drops lock. Not in VSR mode though, in STT

Edited June 9, 2023 by Comrade Doge

[TheGhostOfDefi]

1 minute ago, Comrade Doge said:

Is it also normal for the radar to not be able to track an orbiting target in uplook? As soon as the target is beaming, it drops lock.

Well in VRS mode at least yes

[Comrade Doge]

1 minute ago, TheGhostOfDefi said:

Well in VRS mode at least yes

In VSR yes, but in STT?

[TheGhostOfDefi]

Just now, Comrade Doge said:

In VSR yes, but in STT?

I think even there it depends on the distance RCS, etc. It should be possible but not be too common (Isnt a Tomcat). I can say at least that i did not have problems of that kind, kept the lock all the way to the surface of the water.

[Lord Vader]

24 minutes ago, Comrade Doge said:

Is it also normal for the radar to not be able to track an orbiting target in uplook? As soon as the target is beaming, it drops lock. Not in VSR mode though, in STT

Depends on a lot of factors, but VRS should only be used in high aspect head-on interceptions. As soon as the targets crank, it's advised to switch to RWS. In fact, if the targets turn cold, you might not pick them at all, much less retain the lock.

[Comrade Doge]

16 minutes ago, Lord Vader said:

Depends on a lot of factors, but VRS should only be used in high aspect head-on interceptions. As soon as the targets crank, it's advised to switch to RWS. In fact, if the targets turn cold, you might not pick them at all, much less retain the lock.

I see, but is this also normal for plain old STT? On a beaming target, it cannot hold the lock at all, even when the target is above.

[Lord Vader]

14 minutes ago, Comrade Doge said:

I see, but is this also normal for plain old STT? On a beaming target, it cannot hold the lock at all, even when the target is above.

Can you provide a track of that happening?

[Comrade Doge]

1 minute ago, Lord Vader said:

Can you provide a track of that happening?

Yes, should I open a separate bug report since it's unrelated to VSR

[Lord Vader]

You can send to me via PM, if you don't mind. Thanks.

[Lord Vader]

Hi again.

We've analysed the supplied tracks and further related reports and have concluded that the behaviour is a result of our adjustments to radial velocities for the various radar modes.

These require further adjustments in the near future. At the moment, we have completed the first phase of radar development. In the second phase, we will continue to improve our radars for both the F-16C Viper and the F/A-18C Hornet.

Thanks for your patience.