Take Off From Ramp Starts In Air

[Bluto74]

F-16 cold start placed at Ramon spawned in the air.  Is anyone else seeing something like this?

[OnReTech]

can you tell me the parking lot number? I will check it

[Bluto74]

Pretty sure it was 115.  One of the hardened shelters.  I can't access DCS right now because of authentication issues.  I will find out for sure though.

 

[Bluto74]

It was both 107 and 115.

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[OnReTech]

thank you, beta testers had a similar problem, only at a different airfield, I'll check it out.

[Crash2]

Seeing this also at Nevatim tried parking spots 1, 2, 3, 5, 7, 23, 27, 53, and 71

[Nasder]

My F-16 starts rolling on cold spawn on Ramon Air Base 01 and 02. 02 also have a lip that looks like it's 30-40cm tall which my rolling F-16 bounces on.

No Rolling on 03, but that lip is still there although fading off.

Edited June 9, 2023 by Nasder

[OnReTech]

5 minutes ago, Nasder said:

My F-16 starts rolling on cold spawn on Ramon Air Base 01 and 02. 02 also have a lip that looks like it's 30-40cm tall which my rolling F-16 bounces on.

No Rolling on 03, but that lip is still there although fading off.

 

added to bug list, thks, will be fixed

[Bluto74]

Also.... Great map!  Good job.

 

[Bremspropeller]

Had a similar issue with the F1 at Ramon and with the F-18 at Nevatim, which seems to be especially bad: No single ramp-start position with a roof I tried so far did work there.

[Raisuli]

Nevatim, F/A-18, Spots 20 and 21, takeoff from ramp or takeoff from parking hot (those are the combinations tested), click the green fly arrow, do NOT save, you end up in the air.  If you takeoff from the ground hot and put yourself more or less in slot 20 it works.

In another mission that was saved those slots worked fine, so it might be the saved game, it might be the other elements in the mission, something.  I had to start new and not save it to get the results I had seen earlier.

 

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Added slot 1 and 25 (covered) to my test.  All of them put me in the exact same place mid-air.  It's an empty, default mission with just one aircraft, but not saved.

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Edited June 10, 2023 by Raisuli

[Bremspropeller]

I did try the open parking slots in the west at Nevatim for the 18s. No joy - they'd also start in the air when usung "start at ramp". Starting on ground does work well.

F-5s also had trouble at Nevatim. At first I thought it's the outboard canted tails of the F-18s that do a lot of harm, making them hard to fit under the shelters, but that seems to not be the issue.

 

Ramon is doing fine.

[Rodeo]

20 hours ago, Crash2 said:

Seeing this also at Nevatim tried parking spots 1, 2, 3, 5, 7, 23, 27, 53, and 71

Same here with A10CII

[Exorcet]

Nevatim 114

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[OnReTech]

Thanks, added to the bug list. Priority - highest

[ienatom]

It's also happening in Nevatim, I tried several parkings (66, 115, 90 amongst the others).

[TheGhostOfDefi]

On 12/1/2023 at 11:46 AM, ienatom said:

It's also happening in Nevatim, I tried several parkings (66, 115, 90 amongst the others).

@OnReTech Can confirm. Do you need Trackfiles or something different to help pinpoint this bug?

[OnReTech]

hello, there is already such a bug

[skybaby68]

On 6/12/2023 at 9:46 AM, OnReTech said:

Thanks, added to the bug list. Priority - highest

March 2024 - Still happening. Spent hours creating a detailed map at Nevatim and on testing I couldn't work out where the mass firebomb was coming from until I noted 3 AI aircraft air spawning over the runway and not from their allocated park slots of 01, 03 & 05.

 

When you say Priority Highest. Do you mean ... within the 1st couple of years? 

[Marnes23]

Also at Nevatim I created a mission with uncontrolled F-16s

I think it was parking 43 where the uncontrolled F-16 would start in the air and crash close to runway 08R

I'll try to recreate it soon and post a track file

[RogueRunner]

Still happening, changing the spawns to 'start from ground' is a workaround.