Pls back full alignment process in C&D situation as default

[YoYo]

Guys, I understand there was an alignment issue for some, but now you've cut corners. 

In the C&D situation, I noticed that, in principle, the alignment is immediate. Switching from GC to NAV does nothing also because you can see the path right away (and it wasn't like that). So we're not really talking about realism here anymore.

Yes, I see that the "Cold aircraft needs ..." option has been added after last patch, but let's agree, for cold start should always have no alignment, and if someone doesn't want realism, let them turn it off. So pls do it as : Cold aircraft no needs GC Alignment (and C&D start as default needs alignment always, but user can turn it off, not like it's now).

In general, if someone chooses C&D, it means that they are looking for realism, so as default he should have 100% realism and possibly turn something off, but not the other way around.

Edited July 28, 2023 by YoYo

[Rainmaker]

4 hours ago, YoYo said:

In the C&D situation, I noticed that, in principle, the alignment is immediate. Switching from GC to NAV does nothing also because you can see the path right away (and it wasn't like that). So we're not really talking about realism here anymore.

Yes, I see that the "Cold aircraft needs ..." option has been added after last patch, but let's agree, for cold start should always have no alignment, and if someone doesn't want realism, let them turn it off. So pls do it as : 

 

 

1.  The change is the more correct system operation than previous.  It is also not immediate.  The nav system is aligned, but the attitude alignment is not.  The path is supposed to be there, this was a bug that has been rectified.  So, no, your assumption is what is 'more real' and what is not is incorrect.

2.  The logic flip has to do with MP sync issues, so at this point, the default will be fast alignment with the option for full.  And its also false that it should have no alignment, it will save previous values from the prior 'simulated' sortie.  

3.  The alert status option is a holdover and does not really accomplish anything at the moment, or shouldn't.  My hope is that the devs apply that to alert switch positions, but its not going to be a high priority if they choose to listen to me and apply that, so it will likely be a down the road thing.

[YoYo]

Switching from GC to NAV should load the path too, at least that's how it works in many cases, NAV mode is responsible for navigation (so the path) and only then should the computer load the path after alignment (so at it was bofore was ok for me).

Note that the ADI now (as far as I remember I don't have a way to check it now) immediately works and is set, previously there was a inactive (crossed lines) which suggested it didn't work and needs to be adjusted. As far as I remember too, previously after the alignment the map jumped quite strongly on TDC to the current position after the alignment process. Now there is no effect such like this. This suggests that the F-15E C&D isn't really going through any full alignment and he is aligned right away from the beginning. This may mean that there is no need of any alignment and the aircraft is already aligned so current procedure is a kind of "fake".

For MP, each mission creator if he want, ha can turn off alignment for the rest of users but as I wrote, as default for C&D the alignment full process should be present all the time with possibility to turn off by tick, not in the other way, backwards as they did now. 

Edited July 28, 2023 by YoYo

[Rainmaker]

5 hours ago, YoYo said:

Switching from GC to NAV should load the path too, at least that's how it works in many cases, NAV mode is responsible for navigation (so the path) and only then should the computer load the path after alignment (so at it was bofore was ok for me).

Note that the ADI now (as far as I remember I don't have a way to check it now) immediately works and is set, previously there was a inactive (crossed lines) which suggested it didn't work and needs to be adjusted. As far as I remember too, previously after the alignment the map jumped quite strongly on TDC to the current position after the alignment process. Now there is no effect such like this. This suggests that the F-15E C&D isn't really going through any full alignment and he is aligned right away from the beginning. This may mean that there is no need of any alignment and the aircraft is already aligned so current procedure is a kind of "fake".

For MP, each mission creator if he want, ha can turn off alignment for the rest of users but as I wrote, as default for C&D the alignment full process should be present all the time with possibility to turn off by tick, not in the other way, backwards as they did now. 

 

1. No

2. No.  If the ADI X/OFF is no longer present that is a new issue all its own  

3. I’ve already explained to you why the change was made. 

Edited July 28, 2023 by Rainmaker

[YoYo]

I have now checked exactly how it currently works in default C&D.

Alignment process. The knob before GC.

Knob on GC, starter to align. After several seconds, the X disappears, the GC process indicates about 13 to the end. The path is present. Approximate position, the path shifts.

GC OK, path is present.

Switching GC to NAV. As it was before. Changes on the HUD in NAV mode.

[Rainmaker]

Then by what you are saying in your posts, its working as intended. I believe there should be an OFF flag in there somewhere IIRC, but the general process is correct. 

[YoYo]

Btw. Interestingly, I did the alignment with the "Cold Aircraft needs GC Alignment" option checked, it doesn't matter if it's checked or not, looks the same for me.

[Rainmaker]

31 minutes ago, YoYo said:

Btw. Interestingly, I did the alignment with the "Cold Aircraft needs GC Alignment" option checked, it doesn't matter if it's checked or not, looks the same for me.

Its not. 

[PLUTON]

Good morning
you talk about adjusting the alignment on the F15E
but I do not have this option in the table of the photo
Why ?

[H60MTI]

So, old topic I know, does checking this option have any impact or not? I just noticed it and was curious.