Pop-Up Technique & MRA

[Avio]

I found that by using radar to Mark a target, I could use that Mark point as steerpoint and use Mk 82 via CDIP on low clouds day, deliver via a direct pop-up attack. Pop-up starts at 6 nm, full AB 35 degrees climb to about 12,000 ft, invert and dive to target (mark point) at 35 degrees. Almost always guaranteed a perfect hit.

However, diving speed even with idle power tends to get fast real quick, bomb release usually somewhere near 3 - 4k feet, needing high-G recovery.

There is a MPD setting that says MRA (min recovery altitude) of 15,000 ft. Does this setting mean anything?

 

[Ranucci]

I think it's WIP still. Notso mentioned in his videos that many A/G Delivery page functions aren't finished.

[WizzRD]

On 8/13/2023 at 11:25 PM, Avio said:

There is a MPD setting that says MRA (min recovery altitude) of 15,000 ft. Does this setting mean anything?

Once implemented you´ll see a large X (called "Break X"in the HUD upon reaching whatever altitude you have selected.

[Holbeach]

The whole idea of Popup, is to approach at low altitude, to avoid detection, pop up briefly to ID target at about 2000', then back down, release at about 700' , exit at L/L to avoid AAA/SAM.

Pop Up to 12000' makes you the ideal target.

If it works for you, then enjoy.

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[Nealius]

7 hours ago, Holbeach said:

The whole idea of Popup, is to approach at low altitude, to avoid detection, pop up briefly to ID target at about 2000', then back down, release at about 700' , exit at L/L to avoid AAA/SAM.

Popups are not a static technique limited to a 2,000ft pull down and release at 700ft. Releasing that low with low drag bombs and you'll frag yourself. Pops can be calculated to be done in many ways to account for target, threats, weapon, and delivery method. 

[Avio]

I find a steep dive (45 degrees or so) allows for a very accurate bombs on target due to the slower creeping of the bomb release sight over ground, compared to low angle dive. Climbing to higher altitude 5k to 10k also does not take long due to the eagle’s awesome climb and speed.

 

[Holbeach]

3 hours ago, Avio said:

I find a steep dive (45 degrees or so) allows for a very accurate bombs on target due to the slower creeping of the bomb release sight over ground, compared to low angle dive. Climbing to higher altitude 5k to 10k also does not take long due to the eagle’s awesome climb and speed.

 

That's just how I use to practice, using Mig 15/21, Sabre and Hawk, popping up to about 7000'.

Single undefended vehicle and no air defence was the target.

Gradually add AAA/SAM and this no longer works, so bring down the alt. in stages, once the technique has been honed, until the above mentioned Real Life profile could be reliably repeated..

700' release is for HD bombs in a 10deg dive, but in DCS MK 82 slicks can be used, without damage to the aircraft, but not Mk 84. In RL 1500' would be used for Mk 82 slick.

This of course, is a single RL example and not a cut in stone method.

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[Nealius]

I like to use Weapon Delivery Planner. Made for a different sim, but since all the parameters are in relation to the target you can use the same numbers for DCS work. 

[Sarge55]

WDP is awesome, Falcas is a life saver for mission planning.