How to use stored target points

[skypickle]

Unfortunately i cannot add a target point to a route. So how can i quickly enter its location into a waypoint?

having a list of targets that show up on the TSD coords list is helpful. But how can i leverage this info for navigation?

[Fakum]

Thanks for starting this thread, I was just about to myself. Now that this feature is implemented, I want to understand its use as well, but probably more specifically from this application:

-I dont plan on switching seats for any reason, I want to stay in the Back seat.

-How to best use this in an example of say: I store 1 or more targets but immediately have to mask mask self for various reasons, and when able, basically reposition but I want george to primarily focus on those specific targets that I stored only with primarily Radar Hellfires. 

There are alot of Youtube vids out there that I initially watched several times when the Apache was released. If anyone one knows of a specific Vid that would be relative to this use, please advise. I will be following this post for sure! This just got more enjoyable!

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[Floyd1212]

3 hours ago, skypickle said:

Unfortunately i cannot add a target point to a route. So how can i quickly enter its location into a waypoint?

You can make note of the MGRS coordinates of the target point and create a new waypoint with that information.

You can use the cursor to add a new waypoint roughly in the same place as the target point by moving the cursor to the location of the target point. This is probably the quickest method I can think of.

You can use a target point to set a DIR to for navigation.  It wouldn't be part of the RTE specifically, but when you want to fly to that point use the DIR function, fly to it, then DIR to the next WP in your RTE again.

[Floyd1212]

51 minutes ago, Fakum said:

-How to best use this in an example of say: I store 1 or more targets but immediately have to mask mask self for various reasons, and when able, basically reposition but I want george to primarily focus on those specific targets that I stored only with primarily Radar Hellfires. 

This new feature helps you maintain situational awareness of where those enemy targets are located as you are flying around by looking at your TSD. (On a side note, I find the SAT underlay on the TSD very helpful in helping locate those target points in relation to forests, rivers, towns, etc.)

After you have safely masked and are ready to strike one of the targets, T02 for example, you can select T02 as your ACQ source and the queued LOS reticle will show you where that location is in your HMD.  This also lets you know how far the target is from your position, and when it is about to be unmasked by a hill or something.

You can't tell George to focus directly to those targets using their target points the way a human CPG could, but once you have visibility to the units again, line up your HMD on the dotted reticle and tell George to look there and let him get to work.  At some point you might want to switch back to TADS as the ACQ to see exactly what George is looking at as you work through targets in the area.

This feature is even more helpful for players that like to swap seats.  After George has stored those target locations and you have swapped to the front seat, it is very easy for you to reacquire them using their target points and slaving to them.

[placsea]

Personally I find the most useful part of storing target points is displaying the threat rings ( I think 3km), it's easy to create a quick picture of where you need to be especially vigilant and expect enemy fire and can help you maintain stand off distance around a cluster or 'zone' of enemy units.

I like to use voice attack to quickly do the DIR input buttonpushes then select a target point on the TSD with the cursor to orient myself towards the target area I'm focusing on next. With some practice you can use the TSD kind of like a FPS game minimap.

[Fakum]

Good stuff Boys! Good Stuff!

@placsea Would you mind taking a screen shot of the button presses for that command for Voice Attack so I can be certain of what you doing with that? Thanks,

[placsea]

2 minutes ago, Fakum said:

Good stuff Boys! Good Stuff!

@placsea Would you mind taking a screen shot of the button presses for that command for Voice Attack so I can be certain of what you doing with that? Thanks,

A screenshot isn't going to help since you have to bind it all anyway. It's just using a voice macro to quickly get to the input field for the DIR to. So when I say 'DIRECT' it pushes the buttons on the MPD to get to the point where I can steer the cursor with my stick and click and boom that's now my waypoint/target. It's just stuff a CPG would be doing independently.

[Fakum]

I thought those push keys were bound by default, I havnt looked yet. In case we are confusing each other, I was asking for a screenshot of your VoiceAttack button presses page. But if they are not bound by default, I can see where that wouldnt make sense, I will figure it out,,, thanks though

[placsea]

[Removed]. Anyways, I use this voice command to then either enter with the cursor or if I know the waypoint/target/controlmeasure number I want input in the keyboard unit and push on.

Edited August 19, 2023 by Raptor9
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[Raptor9]

Please keep the forums clean of sexual references and offensive language.

Keep in mind that many DCS players that read these forums are underage, and the behavior is also not very classy.

[Fakum]

@placsea LOL, I have no idea what you said, but do you have an "R" rated variant? Anywho, thanks

[placsea]

Apologies for the dirt, forgot where I was.

[Slippa]

56 minutes ago, placsea said:

Apologies for the dirt, forgot where I was.

Something or other happens, I guess. 

[Fakum]

@placseaIm not sure what you are doing here on the MPD? You are showing (4) button presses, I am presuming there are only (3) to press, and those would be:

-TSD

-RTE

-DIR

Then at which point I would slew the curser over the Target and press (Curser Enter-Depress ) on my HOTAS to select the point on the Map I want to "Direct To".

What are you doing with those button presses? Thanks,

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[skypickle]

On 8/19/2023 at 10:17 AM, Floyd1212 said:

You can make note of the MGRS coordinates of the target point and create a new waypoint with that information.

You can use the cursor to add a new waypoint roughly in the same place as the target point by moving the cursor to the location of the target point. This is probably the quickest method I can think of.

You can use a target point to set a DIR to for navigation.  It wouldn't be part of the RTE specifically, but when you want to fly to that point use the DIR function, fly to it, then DIR to the next WP in your RTE again.

When i press the DIR btn i have to select from one of the waypoints in the route. How does one select a target point as a direct waypoint?

[Poptart]

Select it with the TDC cursor or use the keypad. 

[Floyd1212]

Page 240 of the new manual describes the procedure.

Before you can type in a point using the KU you need to press L1 for "POINT>?".

[Fakum]

I havnt read the manual yet, so thanks for the page info @Floyd1212. @skypickle, I did experiment for a few minutes today, once I made 3 targets I tried (2) procedures. One was to switch from "NAV" mode to "ATK", then used VoiceAttack (Direct) and that performed TSD/RTE/DIR, then at which point I would slew the curser over the Target and press (Curser Enter-Depress ) on my HOTAS to select the point on the Map I want to "Direct To". It is then the selected Waypoint.

The other thing I did once I had some targets saved, and while in the "ATK" mode, I pressed "COOD" to open up the Target list and selected which one I wanted. I dont remember if I did  VoiceAttack (Direct) and that performed TSD/RTE/DIR before going into "COOD" or not to be honest though.

I will be reading page 240 tomorrow.