reported multi-crew aircraft - player who slots in directly to secondary position remains in the neutral coalition - breaks SRS comms

[Zyll]

Issue introduced in the Aug 22 DCS 2.8.8.43704 Open Beta patch.

Title: multi-crew aircraft - player who slots in directly to secondary position does not leave the neutral coalition

Affected airframes: verified on AH-64D and UH-1H, but the theory is more multi-crew aircraft might be impacted

Recreation steps:

• enter a multiplayer server and slot into the pilot seat of an Apache
• have a friend join the same server as a spectator
• confirm via the scoresheet (apostrophe key) that they show as white, indicating neutral coalition
• now have them join your Apache as a CPG
• again check the scoresheet, they will remain white, when they should have turned blue because they are in your bird. SRS radios will not work between the two of you
• have the friend leave your Apache, and join their own Apache as pilot
• check the scoresheet, they will be blue indicating they are now on blue coalition
• have the friend leave their Apache and join yours now
• check the scoresheet, they are still on blue coalition, and now the SRS radios will work between the both of you

The major symptom of this whole issue, is that the fact that player is neutral coalition means that SRS doesn't work between the two of you. You can't hear them either on intercom or on the same radio freq. If you both joined your own Apaches as pilots, then you both become blue, and the radios work fine. Who knows what else is broken by having a neutral CPG with a blue pilot, but this definitely got introduced as a bug after the Aug 22 patch.

We confirmed on our own TAW servers, as well as a public 4YA server, the issue is easily replicated in all cases.

Edited August 23, 2023 by Zyll

[Bazz_Mulder]

Same issue in F-15E with WSO seat

[Snowcat08]

I have the same issue with the rio seat in the tomcat

[MartinCo]

Sorry for adding to this - we find one is unable to join from spectators (but not always)

No mods / scripts, same steps as yours but the player remains in spectators and showing in the CPG, but unable to slot. same in F14,15,AH64,Mi24

Workaround:

- Select another slot (no need to birth)
- Select the multi-crew slot you wished to use

 

 

Edited August 27, 2023 by MartinCo

[goldleader]

Also with this bug once you join an airframe you cannot leave the second seat of an airframe and go back to spectators as you never left spectators when you entered the seat, to leave you need to enter a pilot seat in a different airframe then click back to spectators

Edited August 30, 2023 by goldleader
clarity

[Aernov]

Can confirm this bug, difficulty with returning to spectators is a minor issure compared to a major hindrance for communications in big missions (since SRS can't be used normally). I observed it affecting F-15E, F-14 (both), AH-64.

[Archer.xd]

Hey guys, this is reported internally and being worked on. Best is to wait for fix patch for now